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AMA: AlertMedia VP, Customer Success, Trevor Flegenheimer on Customer Success KPIs


December 4 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. What are some of the *worst* KPIs to commit to achieving?

    Trevor Flegenheimer
    Trevor Flegenheimer

    AlertMedia VP, Customer Success | Formerly Zego, Treacy & Company • 1y

    I think the single worst KPI is 'customer touchpoints.' Customers don't want to be bothered unless you have information that is valuable to them that commands them to stop what they're doing and spend time with you. It's not enough to go about talking to every customer every month in a 'check-in.' It's much better to hold off for 3 months until you can have a value-driven conversation. Additionally, I find certain CS SLAs to be sub-optimal KPIs. If CSMs are supposed to be proactive, that means t ...Read More

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  2. What KPIs should I own and not own as the first customer success hire?

    I'm working at a start-up, and a first customer success hire.

    Trevor Flegenheimer
    Trevor Flegenheimer

    AlertMedia VP, Customer Success | Formerly Zego, Treacy & Company • 1y

    This is a great question! As the first Customer Success hire, I would start by getting a lay of the land of the business -- what is the customer sentiment, how are renewal rates, how often do customers expand their usage with new products, etc. You don't want to immediately tie yourself to KPIs that are major problems because it's unlikely that you can, singlehandedly, change them in your first few months. Instead, find the areas where you can deliver a quick impact -- are cross-sells being left ...Read More

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  3. How do you think about shared KPI’s with your sales team? And what are ones that customer success teams often miss?

    Trevor Flegenheimer
    Trevor Flegenheimer

    AlertMedia VP, Customer Success | Formerly Zego, Treacy & Company • 1y

    The Customer Success and Account Management relationship is critical to the overall health of the business, especially if Net Revenue Retention is a key metric. Often times, for this relationship, Customer Success can help identify sales opportunities in the form of CSQLs for the Account Management team to close and Account Management can spot potential risk for Customer Success to get in front of to prevent churn. Ensuring the team's scorecards are aligned to a common goal is necessary to foste ...Read More

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  4. Setting KPIs can often feel arbitrary, especially when entering new markets. How do you get past this uncertainty to set realistic goals?

    Trevor Flegenheimer
    Trevor Flegenheimer

    AlertMedia VP, Customer Success | Formerly Zego, Treacy & Company • 1y

    The important thing is to start measuring items. Your initial 'goal' may be off, but you won't know that until you start measuring it and having your team work towards a KPI. Be open with them that this is a trial period that nobody's performance will be managed based on if they hit the number out of the gate. And then adjust from there -- if people are overachieving, up the target; if people are consistently struggling to hit, lower the bar. Once you've found the sweet spot, then you can add co ...Read More

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  5. What are some KPIs that you find over-hyped and/or unimportant?

    Trevor Flegenheimer
    Trevor Flegenheimer

    AlertMedia VP, Customer Success | Formerly Zego, Treacy & Company • 1y

    There was another question similar to this, so including my answer here: I think the single worst KPI is 'customer touchpoints.' Customers don't want to be bothered unless you have information that is valuable to them that commands them to stop what they're doing and spend time with you. It's not enough to go about talking to every customer every month in a 'check-in.' It's much better to hold off for 3 months until you can have a value-driven conversation. Additionally, I find certain CS SLAs t ...Read More

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  6. What are good OKRs for customer success?

    Trevor Flegenheimer
    Trevor Flegenheimer

    AlertMedia VP, Customer Success | Formerly Zego, Treacy & Company • 1y

    The best KPIs that I have seen include:

    • Net Revenue Retention

    • Gross Revenue Retention

    • QBRs completed

    • Health score impacted (e.g., number of customers who move from red to green)

    • Number of Account Plans created

    • Customer Success Qualified Leads generated

    • Multi-year contracts secured (if CSMs own renewal)

    • Price increases generated within contracts (again if CSM owns renewal)

    • NPS

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  7. What's your process for figuring out what metrics to hold customer success accountable for?

    Trevor Flegenheimer
    Trevor Flegenheimer

    AlertMedia VP, Customer Success | Formerly Zego, Treacy & Company • 1y

    You have to look at what the business cares about and then work backwards to how Customer Success fits into those overall targets. For example, if the business has a retention problem, it's probably important to have a Gross Revenue Retention KPI. If, however, the business is more interested in price increases and cross-sell and upsell, then tie CSMs to Net Revenue Retention. At AlertMedia, there was a business-wide push to build out our Advocacy program so we incentivized CSMs to source advocat ...Read More

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  8. How do customer success KPIs change with a self-serve product?

    Trevor Flegenheimer
    Trevor Flegenheimer

    AlertMedia VP, Customer Success | Formerly Zego, Treacy & Company • 1y

    With a self-serve product, you probably want to stay away from some of the more product-based KPIs (e.g., product adoption or health score if it's largely adoption driven) but retention, NPS, etc. are still critical metrics for Customer Success. The business has a value proposition for why it's investing in Customer Success despite the product being self-serve so it's incumbent to figure out what that investment thesis is and tie you and your team's KPIs around it.

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  9. What kind of KPIs can I hold my team accountable for if they're extremely bandwidth constrained?

    Trevor Flegenheimer
    Trevor Flegenheimer

    AlertMedia VP, Customer Success | Formerly Zego, Treacy & Company • 1y

    KPIs are the ultimate indicator of where you want your team to spend their time. The old adage that people do what they're get paid to do holds true. If you're paying people to do QBRs, they'll do them. If you're not, it will be harder for them to do so. So as you're developing your KPIs, think about where you want your team to spend their time. If that's where they're spending their time today, great. Write some KPIs that will add motivation to their already busy days. If, however, they're spen ...Read More

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