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AMA: Atlassian Head of Product Marketing, Agile + DevOps Growth, John Kinmonth on Sales Enablement


October 5, 2023 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. How do you measure ROI of sales enablement?

    John Kinmonth
    John Kinmonth

    Atlassian Head of Product Marketing, Developer Solutions + Portfolio Growth • 2y

    Love this question. This will differ at every org, but for me the gold standard is win/loss ratio and booked revenue associated with a sales play, along with qualitative/sentiment data on whether it's resonating with customers (pitch recordings, feedback from sales, etc).These are not always easy to gather (and the first two might be outside of your official PMM remit), but they will really point your enablement efforts toward ROI.Other traditional measurements are more internal adoption- or che ...Read More

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  2. How do you navigate sales enablement at a startup that serves multiple sectors of the market and has limited resources?

    We are moving upstream from working with executive search firms and recruitment agencies to working with in-house enterprise and MM companies. Each type of firm needs the software for recruitment purposes, but each has different pain points and feature interests within the platform

    John Kinmonth
    John Kinmonth

    Atlassian Head of Product Marketing, Developer Solutions + Portfolio Growth • 2y

    Great question. As someone who's worked in a number of startups, I can definitely relate to the pain of trying to do too much at once.In terms of prioritizing your enablement development/rollout across sectors/personas, here's how I think about it:1. Revenue wins: Run the numbers on your serviceable addressable market. Basically, look at the sector population and your average deal size or customer lifetime value to stack rank the opportunity by potential $$. 2. Ability to deliver against custome ...Read More

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  3. What is your tactic when salespeople continually ask you for materials, when you've shown them where they live multiple times? And no one else is confused by that but one specific salesperson?

    John Kinmonth
    John Kinmonth

    Atlassian Head of Product Marketing, Developer Solutions + Portfolio Growth • 2y

    Tell Kevin to pay better attention!Seriously though, that's frustrating, but I'd make sure it's not just isolated to that one sales member (are there other reps that can't find artifacts, but just aren't saying anything?)A lot of times, if I'm having a specific issue with an account executive or solution engineer not getting what they need or giving lots of feedback, I'll recruit them into a braintrust working group so they can help serve as a champion or expert for the specific initiative. Mayb ...Read More

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  4. What are your biggest frustrations with creating insightful sales playbooks that get used?

    John Kinmonth
    John Kinmonth

    Atlassian Head of Product Marketing, Developer Solutions + Portfolio Growth • 2y

    Here are some of the problems I often see with sales playbooks:1. Too much information/time demand up front – If you're asking reps for 5 hours of study time upfront, you're likely going to see poor adoption. Instead, provide guidance to help them size their opportunity based on data, and then provide just the critical next steps for them to move the opportunity forward. We need to be cognizant of sales teams' bandwidth and not flood them with info about every facet of the problem space.2. No da ...Read More

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  5. What sales enablement metrics for materials created by Product Marketing are both actually being used and are helping to win deals and shorten sales cycles?

    John Kinmonth
    John Kinmonth

    Atlassian Head of Product Marketing, Developer Solutions + Portfolio Growth • 2y

    For me, the gold standard is whether an associated sales play is helping improve win/loss ratio, deal cycle times, and booked revenue, along with qualitative/sentiment data on whether it's resonating with customers (pitch recordings, feedback from sales, etc). For example, if we project a revenue opportunity of $XM associated with a specific sales play, what is the percentage of revenue we've actually booked? If it's falling short of projections, is it because sales isn't talking to the right pe ...Read More

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  6. What should product marketing's role be in your company's sales kickoff?

    John Kinmonth
    John Kinmonth

    Atlassian Head of Product Marketing, Developer Solutions + Portfolio Growth • 2y

    This depends on the makeup of your org. If you have dedicated sales enablement, they'll typically orchestrate the program with sales/customer success/PMM/PM leadership, and PMMs will serve as SMEs.

    If you don't have a built-out sales enablement team, PMM should play a forward role in formulating the theme/sessions/objectives.

    Either way, it's a great forum for PMMs to connect to sales leaders and listen to their pain points.

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