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June 4, 2024 @ 9:00AM PT

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Paul Rudwall

Head of Marketing · Hedra

Great products don't win markets on their own. Someone has to build the engine. I did it at DocuSign for 7.5 years, scaling product marketing from pre-IPO through +$3B in revenue. Then I did it again at Hedra, an a16z-backed AI startup, delivering record revenue and 6x growth in traffic and signups. I also spent time pre and post-IPO in sales and marketing roles at Responsys and SuccessFactors.

The challenge I'm most drawn to: building the narrative and the GTM motion that takes AI-native companies from initial traction to repeatable, durable growth.
  1. What are some things you wish you knew in your first few years of Product Marketing, that you have learnt since?

    Paul Rudwall
    Paul Rudwall

    Hedra Head of Marketing | Formerly Docusign, Responsys, Invoca • 2y

    The list of things I wish I had known is long, but I'll try to highlight some of the more important ones. (I really wish I had a resource like Sharebird when I was starting out. There was nothing like it back then.) Lead To Products, Don't Lead With Products: As a PMM it's really easy to get enamoured with the thing you're marketing, especially when Product is telling you it's revolutionary. I've got news for you... Nobody cares about how it works unless they know what problem it solves for them ...Read More

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  2. What's the difference between creating a category for just a specific product/service vs. for the entire company? (Micro vs Macro category creation)

    Paul Rudwall
    Paul Rudwall

    Hedra Head of Marketing | Formerly Docusign, Responsys, Invoca • 2y

    I don't think there's a significant difference. Ultimately, creating a category is about: Identifying a customer problem Reframing the way they think about it Presenting them with a fundamentally different and more compelling way of solving that problem. The fundamental goals are the same, regardless of the level at which the work is done. That said, I do think it can look different depending on where a company is in their evolution. For example: Phase 1: Initially, a company may start its categ ...Read More

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  3. When your platform does many things, how do you prioritize your messaging hierarchy?

    Paul Rudwall
    Paul Rudwall

    Hedra Head of Marketing | Formerly Docusign, Responsys, Invoca • 2y

    I think it's helpful to consider the following following: Focus on What Matters to the Customer: Understand your customers' primary needs and pain points. What aspects of your platform directly address these concerns? Prioritize these features in your messaging. Highlight Purchase Drivers: Determine what will lead customers to choose your product over others. This includes the benefits that help them deliver more value to their business, advance their careers, and make their jobs easier or more ...Read More

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  4. How would you describe the difference between solution marketing and product marketing?

    Paul Rudwall
    Paul Rudwall

    Hedra Head of Marketing | Formerly Docusign, Responsys, Invoca • 2y

    At its simplest, I think product marketing typically focuses on "What does this product do?" whereas solutions marketing typically focuses on "How do they come together for you?" Taking a step back, I think the need for solutions marketing arises when a company transitions from a single-product company to a multi-product company. At this stage, you typically begin to run into situations where different types of customers require an expanding number of different permutations of products, services ...Read More

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  5. Do you ever develop quantitative insights for testing messaging (e.g. via survey, other)?

    Paul Rudwall
    Paul Rudwall

    Hedra Head of Marketing | Formerly Docusign, Responsys, Invoca • 2y

    Yes, we aim to gather quantitative feedback whenever possible. While I don't believe it's necessary for great messaging, it can complement existing efforts and help reduce the risk of bias interfering with your messaging. There are really two areas that my team thinks about research: Market Research: Gathering data, either from 3rd-party sources or from customers, in order to identify market opportunities to pursue in your GTM strategy and product development. Messaging Research: Gathering input ...Read More

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  6. How do you handle the tradeoff between addressing many needs for one vertical vs. addressing 1-2 needs for multiple verticals?

    We are a B2B company with a horizontal platform considering vertical expansion, and trying to decide which new verticals to enter.

    Paul Rudwall
    Paul Rudwall

    Hedra Head of Marketing | Formerly Docusign, Responsys, Invoca • 2y

    To move to verticals, you need verticals large enough to support a dedicated GTM strategy and distinct enough to justify dedicated resources. Essentially, is the vertical unique enough to need its own Sales and Marketing team, and is the opportunity significant enough to warrant full-time attention? At Docusign, we face this question frequently. While virtually any company can use our technology, certain verticals like Financial Services, Healthcare & Life Sciences, Public Sector, and Real E ...Read More

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  7. How do begin to formulate your messaging? Do you generally begin with the product management team, sales team etc?

    Paul Rudwall
    Paul Rudwall

    Hedra Head of Marketing | Formerly Docusign, Responsys, Invoca • 2y

    Start with the customer. If you start anywhere else, you're likely to run into a lot of issues. While there are a number of contributing factors here, the core of it is you want to start with what your buyers think matters, not what you think matters. That said, I think a big part of the Product or Solutions Marketing role is to aggregate information from a variety of sources and distill it into simple and compelling messaging that generates customer demand and arms GTM teams to turn it into rev ...Read More

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  8. What internal messaging efforts have helped you shift your company's mindset from a product company to a solutions or platform company? What worked the best? What mistakes did you make?

    Paul Rudwall
    Paul Rudwall

    Hedra Head of Marketing | Formerly Docusign, Responsys, Invoca • 2y

    This is a great question. The conclusion I've come to is that while internal messaging is critical, it's not sufficient on its own to drive a significant shift. Incentives play a crucial role, and aligning them requires a full-company effort. Simply put, messaging alone won't be enough to make the change. That said, messaging is still very important. Here are some key lessons I've learned: Leadership Buy-In: The shift must be driven by your CEO, with full support from your Executive Leadership T ...Read More

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