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AMA: Indeed Director of Product Marketing, Sherrie Nguyen on Customer Research


July 28, 2022 @ 9:00AM PT

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  1. How do you map and orchestrate a b2b buyer journey, from learning to buying?

    We're currently revisiting our content strategy here at Resultados Digitais, and some help on the subject would be very valuable. Our main challenges include: - Finding which types of of subject/content/format/channel work better, and in which stage of the journey; and - Understand how far should we go on segmenting and personalizing our strategy, and under which axis (demographics, persona, etc);

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    Great question! You actually squeezed 3 topics in here, which are all inter-related and important to buyer journey maps. In my experience, I start with segmenting my audience (total addressable market by country, company, vertical/industry, etc), identifying personas within my target audience (buyer/user), mapping the journeys for each persona, and then testing which content formats/channels work best. This means if I'm selling to Enterprises vs. mid-sized companies, IT vs. Finance buyers, I sho ...Read More

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  2. How do you create competitive intel that is really beneficial to sales (i.e. they actually read and use it)?

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    I first start with really solid positioning, which should clearly identify how your offering is differentiated from other competitors in the market and lean into that. Second, I listen and shadow sales to see how often/why competitors come up in conversation. Then I can create appropriate messaging. Depending on your position in the market and how competitive the space is, you may go head to head in a more visible brand campaign, or if you're a category leader, you may keep an eye out and handle ...Read More

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  3. We don't have a Voice of Customer program. 1. How do you get buy-in and 2. What does an MVP of a VOC program look like?

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    You can make the case on paper, but you can also spin up an MVP to affirm the value of a VOC program. 1. In my previous experience, I gained buy-in by outlining all the ways programs like this can drive product feedback, referral of new customers, retention of current customers, and upsell/cross-sell of products. 2. We ran an MVP at our yearly summit by inviting top spending/high potential customers to do a roundtable with our execs and heads of product. We learned what's top of mind in their wo ...Read More

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  4. How do you convince your company that it's worth the time to invest in researching and making buyer personas?

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    I'd say, start asking questions, especially of the leaders and sales team. Depending on the answers, you may have a really good start to building some personas already. Or you may validate that you don't really know your target audience, and in this case, it would be worthwhile to arm teams with better information. Report back your findings and collaborate with stakeholders to decide whether it's good enough or needs more.

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  5. How have you historically sourced people to interview while developing personas?

    Especially if you don't have any customers that fit the bill my current plan is to assemble a list of possible titles and have my virtual assistant company prospect for and find contact details for them then probably send out a survey to validate if they're the right people to talk to and reach out individually to the ones that fit the bill.

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    This is a great approach. It's best if you get as specific as possible to identify prospects (ie. country, company size, verticle/industry, job title) and get clear on where you want to focus.  I shared in another answer that we partnered with a leading thought leader for a specific vertical (retail) and conducted a survey with their audience, who was our target person (retail execs). We used the survey results to share industry trends and insights and used this asset for lead generation, which ...Read More

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  6. Any tips for recruiting good enterprise decision maker interviewees for persona interviews? Where do you hunt? Do you compensate them?

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    I love this question. I've done this in a really scrappy way at a start-up and then approached this with significant budgets at a larger company. The scrappy way was to identify a couple leads, reach out with a request to learn from them to influence your product roadmap, and bring them swag. This worked well for store managers, and I literally walked the mall and bought people coffee at the starbucks for my interviews. For a much higher level executive who can be harder to reach and medium budg ...Read More

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  7. How do you approach creating personas? Do you have personas that the business-at-large uses versus personas just for launches? How often do you create/refresh the two?

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    At Indeed, we segment employers by small, mid-sized, and enterprise, and we also look at specific industries/verticals that make up a bulk of our users. We also do this for job seekers, so it's a very B2B2C approach. For launch, we should identify which persona we're targeting before we even build, so that our research along the way informs the approach to meet this persona's needs. We refresh our personas yearly but will use current customer data to understand adoption, spend, retention monthly ...Read More

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  8. How do you see qualitative research differently from UX research, if at all, when it comes to product marketing?

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    I work with market researchers to understand higher level problems, use cases, personas, customer journeys, brand consideration, preference, trust, etc. for my company and product as a whole. Buyers/users don't need to have actually used our product but should be a target persona or have a use case/problem relevant to our product. I work with UX research to understand specific user feedback of the product itself (whether it's a prototype of a new product/feature or observing them click through t ...Read More

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  9. Are you always aiming for a single persona? Or are there situations where two or more make more sense?

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    Always aim for as many personas as you encounter, but see above for my explanation on identifying a target segment and then choosing the personas you want to go after. It's important to stay focused on key decision makers, budget holders, and influencers. Part of this may be trial and error with continuous learning as you enter sales cycles and learn more. 

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  10. What can you learn from decision makers before they've become customers?

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    Such a wonderful question. I'm a big proponent of doing this. First, identify your target market and job titles of your target buyer. Then interview them to get a good understanding of the problems they face, uses cases they may have, and how they search for solutions. Your goal is to get a robust perspective of the market problems, potential competition in the space, and what your buyer cares about in order to create a differentiated, value-driven experience.

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  11. How do you ensure your research is inclusive and representative of the audience you serve?

    Sherrie Nguyen (she/her)

    Indeed Director of Product Marketing • 3y

    As a leader for Indeed's Parents and Caregivers Inclusion Resource Group, I have to talk about this topic! There are a couple ways to approach this.  1. Add self-identifying optional fields so you get a better picture of your audience's demographics. This can be useful for a survey and can be anonymized through graphs and charts that slice data by race, gender, veteran status, etc. 2. For more personal qualitative research such as focus groups, 1:1 interviews, etc. you may have to create specifi ...Read More

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