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AMA: Square Product Lead, Carrie Zhang on Product Management vs Product Marketing


February 2, 2022 @ 9:00AM PT

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  1. Who should own pricing? Product management or product marketing? And what role should each play?

    Carrie Zhang
    Carrie Zhang

    Square Product Lead • 4y

    It’s a joint decision between product management and product marketing at Square. In general our PMMs tend to have more ownership here. They will lead competitive analysis and commission qual/ quant research to inform pricing decisions.

    That said, from what I observed, when you zoom into the specific PM/ PMM pair, it really comes down to whoever has the expertise and the respect from the team to make the right call.

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  2. What advice would you give to a product marketer looking to transition to product management, or vice versa?

    Carrie Zhang
    Carrie Zhang

    Square Product Lead • 4y

    It’s a good idea to try internal transfer if you want to transition from PMM to PM, or vice versa. Learning the craft of a new discipline is not easy. You are more likely to set yourself up for success if you minimize other variables like new company, new product, new team. Anchor on your strength. There are many transferable skills between the two disciplines, e.g., customer discovery, data analytics, communication and influencing skills. Leverage your strength in the new role and you will find ...Read More

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  3. Should product marketing report to product management or marketing?

    Carrie Zhang
    Carrie Zhang

    Square Product Lead • 4y

    Ha, organizational design questions are always the fun ones. :) These types of questions don’t have a right or wrong answer. Each design will have its pros and cons and it’s all about what you are trying to optimize. When I started in product marketing at Square, we reported into marketing. About 8 months later, we got spun off marketing and reported into product GMs. While I didn’t think that changed how I did my job - reflecting on the experience - I did feel some differences. While I was in m ...Read More

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  4. What are the commonly shared responsibilities between product management and product marketing?

    Carrie Zhang
    Carrie Zhang

    Square Product Lead • 4y

    • Revenue, P&L ownership.
    • Customer discovery. Our PMs and designers tend to lead more qualitative research while our PMMs tend to lead more quantitative surveys.
    • Product strategy. At Square, PM is the ultimate DRI (Directly Responsible Individual).
    • Pricing and packaging. At Square, PMM is the ultimate DRI.
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  5. From your experience, what are some best practices for product management and product marketing to work together effectively?

    Carrie Zhang
    Carrie Zhang

    Square Product Lead • 4y

    Good question. I view product management and product marketing as close partners since we co-own the strategy and business outcome. Cannot say I have best practices, rather some guiding principles of how I would like to see us work together. Involve each other early. I hate the model where the product team does a hard handoff to product marketing only when the product/ feature is ready to launch. PM, PMM, as well as other disciplines like Design, Engineering, and Data Science all bring unique pe ...Read More

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  6. How would you describe the key differences between the product manager role and product marketer role?

    Carrie Zhang
    Carrie Zhang

    Square Product Lead • 4y

    The product manager (PM) decides “what” to build and “when”, and is accountable for delivering the product or feature that delights customers. The product marketer (PMM) informs “what” to build, and is accountable for driving the demand for what has been built. Both require deep customer and market insights. Both need to think strategically about how to differentiate your product in your space. The difference lies in execution. On a day-to-day basis, the PM works very closely with designers and ...Read More

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  7. At what point do you pull in the product marketing team while working on a new feature enhancement?

    Carrie Zhang
    Carrie Zhang

    Square Product Lead • 4y

    From the very beginning and throughout the development process. This is very much related to the previous question. I will try to bring to life how the process works on the Square teams. For any new feature development, we hold a kickoff/ problem alignment with PM, PMM, Design, Eng and Data Science. The goal is to align on the customer problem, generate hypotheses, identify open questions that need further investigation. From there, PM, PMM, and Design may divide and conquer customer research ta ...Read More

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