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AMA: Amperity Vice President, Product Marketing, Jason Perocho on Stakeholder Management


December 21, 2023 @ 9:00AM PT

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  1. How do you influence people who are not aligned on the same objective (a different team with different goals) to move the needle on an interdisciplinary project?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    Let's pull back from this question because it does not provide a great premise to build on. Every for-profit business has the same objective of making money profitably. Making money profitable can be further subdivided into business metrics around acquisition, which can be further subdivided into business metrics around marketing and sales, which can be further subdivided into metrics around each stage of the funnel. Successfully influencing stakeholders requires finding the lowest subdivision f ...Read More

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  2. What are some basic skills or things to look out when navigating politics?

    As someone that hasn't dealt with (or perhaps has been oblivious to) a lot of politics, what should I be aware of as a "beginner"?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    That's great that you have not dealt with office politics! Those who navigate office relationships the best are empathetic, authentically themselves, and have a vision of what they want to do. Be Empathetic - Everyone has their challenges inside the office and at home. Successful people take the time to understand what's driving their colleagues and show genuine compassion and kindness, even when their colleagues are not at their best. People are drawn to those who try to understand or manage th ...Read More

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  3. What approach do you take to build internal consensus among stakeholders when you have limited data to prove/disprove an idea?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    I have not approached a situation where I could not find quantitative or qualitative data to support my point of view. In the absence of a lot of data, I would understand the motivations and goals of each stakeholder that I need to build a consensus with. I would then try to align as many motivators or goals as possible to gain alignment. I would then go and find champions in the people I have aligned with to help bring together anyone I couldn't find alignment with.

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  4. How do you measure your own success in your role? How much have those performance indicators evolved as you grew within your role?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    I measure my success in two ways equally: Company/Business Unit KPIs: Product marketing is a tough job because so much of our success depends on another team applying our messaging successfully in their work. If my team were doing its job correctly, we would have enabled our product, marketing, sales, and customer success to hit their pipeline, sales, and adoption numbers. My area of responsibility has grown over time by taking on more products and/or regions to grow the aforementioned KPIs. Dir ...Read More

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  5. When coming up with positioning and messaging as part of GTM plan, which key stakeholders/teams (in addition to product and sales) should weigh in?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    Below are the key stakeholders and goals I have during my stakeholder interviews for positioning and messaging: Focus Groups [Prospective Buyer Focus Group] Dive down deep into pains, problems, and expected benefits [Customer Advisory Board] Dive down deep into pains, problems, and expected benefits Product Managers: Identify what pains the new features/products is designed to solve Understand how this provides a differentiated experience Understand the value we want to deliver BDR/SDR Understan ...Read More

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  6. As a product marketer, I run multiple projects simultaneously. In such a scenario, stakeholder management becomes an operational task. Is there a checklist that you follow to ensure efficiency?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    There is no checklist but a routine I do every week to ensure I progress toward my goals and feel a sense of accomplishment at the end of each week. Every Monday, I write out my top priority and the three things I will accomplish this week. I share those with my team, my boss, and my stakeholders to get alignment and set expectations of where my time will be focused this week. Occasionally, my boss, team, or stakeholders will ask to adjust based on their view of the business. I weigh the options ...Read More

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  7. Have you ever considered using a stakeholder empathy map? How much time and resources went into it? And how often do you think a product marketing team needs to refresh it? Thanks

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    I have never considered making an empathy map. Empathy mapping is a time-consuming task that often doesn't produce actionable insights. Empathy maps are also limited in scope and only help visualize a specific problem. Instead, I recommend focusing on how you show up at work. This is a repost from another question, but thought it was still relevant here: Be Empathetic - Everyone has their challenges inside the office and at home. Successful people take the time to understand what's driving their ...Read More

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  8. Do you approach stakeholder management differently based on the team you're talking to? (Product, Marketing, Sales, Growth, Customer Success). And if so, how?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    I like to keep my approach consistent across stakeholders, but I do alter what I focus on to ensure that each team cares about what I have to say. My approach: Objective: Summarize your objective in a sentence. Overview Goal: Succinct description of the business goal of the pillar Strategy: Succinct statement of your strategy Problem Statement: Clearly state the relevant challenges and the impact on the stakeholder you are talking to. Don't dive into all the details that are not pertinent to the ...Read More

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  9. What advice do you have for navigating multiple stakeholders with conflicting feedback when creating sales enablement?

    I have one stakeholder who really should only be an inform but is acting like a decision-maker, and the conflicting feedback I'm getting is prolonging the creation process 5x. I've also got a design team that needs a lot of handholding, which is difficult for me since it's not my specialty.

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    Great stakeholder management begins before a project like sales enablement even begins. Vision: I quickly establish my vision for Product Marketing at the company. In the vision I define our guiding light, what we do, and how we do it. The vision is co-created with the rest of my product marketing team so that every feels a sense of ownership and will evangelize the vision. I get the vision blessed by my CMO, CPO, and CRO, then begin each meeting with it. See below for an example Guiding light: ...Read More

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  10. Tips for managing stakeholder input: are there any templates or best practices for when to gather input and how to incorporate (i.e. whose feedback to incorporate vs. ignore, etc.), especially as it relates to a timeline?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    The best advice for managing stakeholder input is to give them a read-ahead before major milestones and to set firm deadlines. Strategy / Proposal State audience and purpose of strategy document. Challenges Clearly state your point of view of this project faces. Mission Statement Take ownership and let the organization know what Customer Marketing stands for. The mission statement is an enduring guiding light that Customer Marketing will follow for the next few years. Use the following structure ...Read More

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  11. As a product marketer, how do you handle design disagreements on something you're working on with your designer?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    I handle disagreements by backing away from the decision at hand and first getting alignment on our philosophical approach to product design and then defining roles and responsibilities. I'm a firm believer that disagreements usually stem from a lack of alignment on the aforementioned.

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  12. How do you align internal stakeholders as a product marketer?

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    I use the following template to align internal stakeholders around a project: PMM Strategy Brief Goal:  What impact are we trying to achieve on our business?(i.e. Awareness, PipeGen, Pipe Acceleration, Pipe Close, Adoption, Cross-Sell, Up-Sell, Increase Competitive Win Rates, Revewals etc.) Be Concise. Projected Impact [S/M/L]: Business Insight:  Why are we doing this? Why Now? What trends are we seeing with prospects or in our customer base that led to us wanting to do this initiative? Program ...Read More

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  13. How often and when do you typically get feedback on collateral from the teams that will use it?

    I've found that it's valuable to get feedback from 1-3 reps on a high-quality first draft, and sometimes, even the final version to ensure it will work for the team it's using it, but it often takes more time than I'd like

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    Great question! My stakeholders are generally extremely busy, so I try to limit the times I go to them for feedback. What I found worked the best was going to them when there was still a lot of wiggle room to adjust the asset. Concept: I bring the concept to the stakeholders to ensure it's an asset they would use. I also have the stakeholder review messaging and takeaways to ensure the asset is valuable. Second Draft: I bring them a draft to get feedback and ensure they have a say of what should ...Read More

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  14. How can a PMM best keep their leadership (Sr. Director, VP-level) best updated on an iterative & volatile product development process for a venture bet? What's the best communication cadence and format so leadership has confidence in the team?

    I work at a large tech enterprise, where product development usually follows a predictable timeline and cadence. However, I'm the lead PMM on a massive venture bet, where product development is highly iterative (lots of testing, learning, and re-thinking of the product plan). I've been asked to "own" the GTM strategy & regularly share out on it, even while the product plan is not fully in place. I'm struggling to manage up & could use advice on what a leader is really looking for in terms of comms on a project like this.

    Jason Perocho
    Jason Perocho

    Amperity SVP, Head of Marketing • 2y

    The best way is to help the product and engineering teams bucket and articulate their work and goals. Bucket [or Theme] Product Development - Help your product managers and engineers create distinct buckets for their work. I have been a part of organizations with 40 features under development, but no one has gone through and asked how these are related to each other. Take what's being worked on and arrange them into 3-5 themes. Partner with PM/Eng to Craft Vision for Each Bucket - Once bucketed, ...Read More

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