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AMA: Asana Head of Solutions Marketing, Eric Bensley on Competitive Messaging


September 13, 2023 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. How do you measure the success of your messaging?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    There's no perfect way to do this. People hate when I say this but when it comes to messaging, I'm much more into qualitative feedback vs. quantitative. If you similarly hate me, feel free to move on. If not, here are a few qualitative measures I use: Can your sales team remember it and pitch it on calls? If you use call recording software with your team, take a listen. If your sales team is pitching it, it's working. If not, it's not. Do a webinar or event and ask for feedback after. Incentiviz ...Read More

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  2. What is the difference between messaging and positioning?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    This is a fun one that I've spent many hours chatting about with folks. Positioning is more of a high level concept about where you fit into your target audiences head in a different way than anyone else, Messaging is more about how you say that position to the target audience. Let's take a made-up example: Let's say I market an organic dog food that has no processed ingredients and sustainable packaging. (there's an eating your own dogfood joke here but i digress) Positioning = The only dog foo ...Read More

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  3. What messaging techniques are effective to build greater trust in AI/ML features of products and solutions?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    With any emerging technology, I've found the best approach is to compare to the previous way of doing things. People digest a new way of doing something by comparing it to how they do it today. Think about a lot of the technologies we use today: Email = electronic mail, Software as a Service = Software that you don't run locally on your comuter, TV (tele-vision) = vision at a distance, etc. There's some real fear and trust issues with AI/ML. But there's also a lot of just fear of the unknown. Th ...Read More

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  4. How do you decide between focusing on SMB vs. Enterprise when doing messaging where you can only have one?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    Generally, this comes down to your company priorities. It is hard to do both well so here are a few questions you can ask to determine which approach is correct: What percentage of your new revenue comes from SMB vs Enterprise? How are your sellers organized SMB vs. Enterprise? What customer stories are more compelling to you target audience? Where are your competitors focused and where is there whitespace? Which target will help you get to your revenue goals faster? To make this decision, I wou ...Read More

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  5. What do you think about the Jobs to be Done framework for enterprise B2B?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    I think it's very helpful. For those reading this that haven't read Clayton Christensen's work, here's a good summary of the concept of "jobs to be done". When we create messaging, we need to be focused on what problem we're solving. I'll give you an example of when I worked on GoToMeeting. This was early days and not many people used online meetings, way before Zoom. If you think about what job GoToMeeting was solving, many thought the problem was better collaboration. You get screen sharing an ...Read More

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  6. How do you distill the 'WHY' of your brand down into your product value propositions? Any frameworks or exercises to support this process across different market segments?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    Call me old school but I think positioning statements do this VERY well. Here's an exercise I've used and seen success with in building alignment on the "Why" of a company or brand. Create list of key stakeholders who have a say in your value prop (think like key sales leaders, product, marketing, etc) Create a meeting for the entire group to get together and work through the value prop. Assign homework in advance: everyone send you a completed version of the positioning statement for your compa ...Read More

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  7. Who owns messaging and positioning in a product marketing org?

    Specifically in the context of having only~2 product marketers, both of whom are counterparts vs. a team lead and direct report. On that note, if it's such a small team, who is best equipped to lead positioning and messaging (based on skill sets) or should this be a collaborative effort?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    I'd ask: What is you most significant marketing effort where you have to align on messaging and positioning? Is it your website? Is it sales kickoff? Is it a brand campaign? Look for the place where your most important stakeholders are organically engaging, whoever is most critical in this effort, should also own your messaging and positioning. It's very hard to create energy and momentum for messaging without a compelling event or tactic. Use that compelling event and date....and whoever is ali ...Read More

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  8. What are some of the best messaging 'success stories' of your career?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    I'll give you a couple wins but want to focus more on why I see them as wins vs. the actual messaging. Here are two wins: -We created a messaging framework for SMBs to adopt CRM. It was simple. Find new leads. Win more deals. Keep customers happy. Abbreviated as Find. Win. Keep. It was a win because the sales team used it in conversation for years. When your sales team uses your messaging from memory, you got something special. -We created a campaign for GoToMeeting with the line - Do More. Trav ...Read More

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  9. Who should a product marketer work with to QA and approve product messaging?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    The magic formula usually includes these 3 in my experience:

    -Product - they'll pull you to vision and differentiation

    -Sales - they'll pull you into the here and now of closing business today

    -Customers - they'll help you rationalize the product and sales feedback so you can meet somewhere in the middle;)

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  10. What's the best way to rapidly test if your messaging is working as intended? Related question - how do you know if your messaging is working or not?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    The simplest here is if you're moving awareness, pipeline, close rates, revenue, etc. But I know that's not always immediately available. So I have a simpler answer. PITCH YOUR MESSAGING TO PEOPLE, IN PERSON. This might seem too basic but I've seen the success over and over. Pitch your messaging to customers, key stakeholders, your sales team, anyone that will listen. It's really easy to write bad messaging when you never see a human face react to it. Pitch it, iterate, pitch it, iterate, keep g ...Read More

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  11. How can you create urgency in messaging to convince prospective buyers to buy now?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    You HAVE to answer "why now" with every piece of messaging you create. This is a question I ask to draw this out with my team: why didn't our prospects need this last year and this year they must have it? It's always helpful to look at macro trends and themes in the broader world + economy. Generative AI is a great example from today's market. So many vendors are just saying Gen AI without addressing the "why?" Sure it's cool, but why do I need it? Are your prospects dealing with budget cuts and ...Read More

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  12. How do you simplify technical jargon so that your audience understands it but not so much so as to lose its essence?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    There's no replacement for talking to humans. And the less technical the better. We can all sit in a room with people "in the know" and nod our heads as we look at messaging. But try explaining it in conversation so someone who's never heard of your category, that's a different story. Try explaining to your mom, partner, friend, kid, etc. Then ask them: -did that make sense? -how is our product different from others? -why do you think people are buying this? The more humans you get in front of, ...Read More

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  13. Should messaging/positioning change from release to release? Or should it be broad enough to carry you through at least a year?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    As a general best practice, I think messaging should live 6-12 months with minor updates and no major overhauls. The 6 month window is for macro changes that no one expected. This is for all of us who created messaging 6 months before ChatGPT launched. We all had to pivot to bring AI in and no one saw that massive shift happening. The 12 month window is to force us to make big changes every year to drive excitement from customers and our sales teams. We can't wait too long to update.

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  14. When should messaging change for a product and how should that be addressed with internal stakeholders?

    or should messaging not change, but evolve?

    Eric Bensley
    Eric Bensley

    ServiceNow VP, Product Marketing - CRM • 2y

    It should change when you position is significantly impacted by: -the market changes (ie new tech emerges - social, mobile, AI, etc) -your competition changes (ie your key competitor introduces low price offering) -the macro economy changes (ie recession, inflation) -your customer base changes (ie new target customer profile aligned with leadership) The way it should be addressed with stakeholders is they should be part of creating it. And if they can't prioritize being part of it, maybe it's no ...Read More

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