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AMA: ClickUp VP, Product Marketing, Mike Berger on Developing Your Product Marketing Career


November 11, 2021 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. What are good product marketing OKRs?

    I would like to know what metrics are used to measure PMM and what does good look like

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    If you are looking for key Product Marketing metrics to determine success, here are some ideas: For a mature product: new users, adoption (usage), active users, daily active users, monthly active users, retention, net retention, pipeline, revenue, deal size, win rate, close rate, velocity For a very immature product: # of early customers, # of customer demos, # of trial signups, adoption (usage) For going after a new buyer: # of new relevant titles added to the database, # of wins in a new verti ...Read More

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  2. What can I include in my marketing portfolio to standout from the crowd as a product marketing candidate.

    I'm new to Product Marketing. In the interviews that I've done, I am being asked to present a marketing portfolio.

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    Maybe I'm unique but I've been in Product Marketing for a long time and I've never been asked to present a "marketing portfolio". I have, on the other hand, been asked to present on specific topics or share specific experiences on many occasions. If someone is asking you to present a "marketing portfolio" and you are new to product marketing, I would ask the person asking you to provide more detail on what they are looking for.  If you don't have a portfolio, then I would tell them that you are ...Read More

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  3. What do you look for when promoting a Product Marketer from individual contributor to people manager?

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    I look for a combination of:

    1. Impact - have they played a significant role in driving positive business outcomes for the company
    2. Skills - have they achieved a level of mastery necessary to successfully coach others
    3. Leadership - have they recognized and elevated those around them, not just focused on themselves
    4. Collaboration - do I hear positive feedback from others across the compnay who have interacted with them

    All weighted equally to me, and all super important.

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  4. Should product marketing candidates go 'above and beyond' in interview prep and put a 30-60-90 day plan or SWOT analysis together?

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    Short answer, yes. If it's a job you really want, go above and beyond. Now, if a company says they want you to prepare a 5 slide presentation on something, I wouldn't simply decide that 10 slides is fine, because they might want to see whether or not you can create a concise deck. So if you plan to go above and beyond, and you have questions around it, just ask the hiring manager or recruiter. When I ask candidates to prepare an excercise, some candidates proactively request time with me prior, ...Read More

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  5. When moving from a Sr PMM role to ‘lead’, what are those attributes that person should embody?

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    Here are some ways to think about the move from Sr. PMM to Lead:Skills Sr. PMM - You have advanced product marketing skills and significant experience in the field. Based on your expertise, you regularly work to define the scope of your role and build on your skillset. Lead - You have mastery of all product marketing skills, which you not only apply to your own work, but also to teach others on your team. Judgement Sr. PMM - You work under limited direction and lead clearly defined initiatives f ...Read More

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  6. What are the SaaS you think is doing product marketing exceptionally well globally and it's competitors and also please explain how is the one able to stay ahead than the rest?

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    I've always thought that Hubspot has done a great job with product marketing. They have great product market fit and their messaging and positioning is typically on point. As their platform has grown and they've introduced new offerings like their CRM, their "powerful alone, better together" message was really smart. And despite all the new offerings, they still clearly articulate the value of each for the distinct set of buyers each maps to.  From a more general marketing perspective, they've c ...Read More

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  7. How to approach the conversation with my manager regarding promotion after working in b2b product marketing for several years and not been promoted

    I started a new role recently at the PMM level, and already have several years of PMM experience. both roles were in enterprise software, but the industries / products are very different so there is a big learning curve in the new role

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    This is very hard to answer without more detail. Knowing the reason why you haven't been promoted yet would obviously inform how I'd approach the conversation. But my advice would be to simply approach the conversation honestly. Some tips: Make it clear you believe you deserve a promotion List the reasons why (focus on the impact you've made) Ask your manager if he/she agrees with your assessment If yes, ask about a timeline  If not, ask them what you would need to do in order to be considered f ...Read More

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  8. What separates a good PMM from a great PMM?

    I'm an individual contributor at the manager level, and I'm looking to see how I can eventually get promoted to the next level!

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    Great PMMs really understand the nuances behind messaging and are able to create simplicity out of complexity.  They are framework-driven.  They connect their work to strategic company initiatives, especially those tied to growth.  They are "drivers" with a strong bias to action.  They are phenomenal communicators and are able to hold their own in discussions and debates with senior leaders.  They use the right mix of instinct and data to make decisions.  They make others "want" to work with the ...Read More

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  9. How do you update stakeholders, and the company as a whole, on the recent activities and achievements of product marketing?

    What channel/form, what content do you include, formats, etc.

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    I think a monthly email update, or Slack update sent to the entire company is a great way to update the rest of the organization on the activities and achievements of PMM.  Generally speaking, there is so much noise with all the channels of communication people have to deal with today that something that gets "sent" to the company in some way, shape or form is much more effective than anything that would require someone to seek out such info. So if you put all of PMMs achievements on a page in a ...Read More

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  10. What are the most important skills (both tactical and intangible) that are must-have for product marketers?

    Ex... GTM: it more important to be skilled at product or feature-specific launches or to be skilled at high-level overall GTM (messaging, positioning, pricing, packaging).

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    I'll answer this by conveying what I look for when I hire product marketers: Messaging skills - can you take complex things and make them seem simple and easily digestible Writing skills - writing is an art form, and is the most important foundational skill for a PMM in my opinion Storyteling - can you turn a customer use case into an interesting and memorable story Influence - can you rally people around your ideas and vision Collaboration skills - PMM is obviously an incredibly cross-functiona ...Read More

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  11. What framework do you use when assessing a new opportunity at a different company?

    Some criteria I've used in the past: what problems have I solved that I'm good at and what do I want to solve next, the team makeup, where the role sits in the organization, company culture, and where the product fits in the market

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    For those of you who are earlier on (first ~8 years) in your career, here is the framework I'd use: People (and Culture) - You should feel energized about working with the people at the company, ESPECIALLY your manager, and the culture should feel like a fit. Company - Join a rocket ship with a brand that has buzz, and you'll have a lot of options when you're ready for whatever comes next. Join a slow growing company no one has heard of, and far fewer doors will open. Like it or not, that is the ...Read More

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  12. What would you say are the top 3 - 5 areas a Product Marketing Manager should always be focused on that can make the biggest impact at a growing start-up?

    Product Marketing can end up being a catch-all in terms of responsibilities.

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    Here's what is top of mind for me as it relates to making a big impact in a startup environment: Understanding of the customer - not just a surface level understanding of the customer, but a deep understanding of customers incuding their pains and motivations. This is knowledge that no one can take away from you, and it is highly valued across many functions. The answer to the question of "Why now?" - many startups fail, or fail to grow quickly, because they can't clearly convey why customers sh ...Read More

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  13. If you have the opportunity to step back and evaluate where/how to grow as a product marketer (after 2 years self taught in the field), what would you advise to focus on?

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    I think the one thing that most PMMs that are early on in their careers should focus on is storytelling. Conveying the value of a solution in a clear, concise and compelling way is incredibly important, but it's table stakes. Doing the same by telling a story takes it to another level, and makes it much more memorable. Some PMMs are natural storytellers, but most aren't. Most need to work at it. But the payoff is high as storytellers are highly valued.

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  14. What is your opinion on “role over company” vs “any seat on a rocketship” for a PMM early in their career?

    Mike Berger
    Mike Berger

    Ex-VP, Product Marketing @ ClickUp, SurveyMonkey, Gainsight, Marketo | Formerly Momentive, Gainsight, Marketo • 4y

    I can tell you based on quite a bit of experience that this is the easiest question I'll ever answer on the topic of building a successful PMM career. It isn't even close. When you are early on in your career, forget about the role, title, pay, etc. Instead, jump into any seat on a rocketship.  When you are on a rocketship, if you perform well, there will be plenty of opportunities for growth as the company grows, and the experience you gain will be highly valued by other companies hoping to ach ...Read More

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