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AMA: Coda Former Core Marketing Lead, Andrew Stinger on Building a Product Marketing Team


June 1, 2022 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. As a hiring manager, what do the best product marketing candidates have in common?

    Andrew Stinger
    Andrew Stinger

    Headway Staff Product Marketing Manager • 4y

    I’m always wary of painting with too broad a brushstroke when it comes to hiring. Your job as a hiring manager is to spend time understand the super powers of the people you meet as part of your interview process, and to evaluate if those super powers have a place at your company. With that in mind and the current context of our work at Coda, I can share some commonalities in some of our recent all-star hires: Curiosity with the intrinsic motivation to go find answers (vs. letting questions pers ...Read More

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  2. When thinking about adding new talent to your team, how do you structure focus areas like Customer lifecycle stage, Persona, Areas of the product and Functional expertise?

    We only have one product at HoneyBook but PMM does a lot of different things, ie, lifecycle marketing, research, competitive, feature launches, etc.

    Andrew Stinger
    Andrew Stinger

    Headway Staff Product Marketing Manager • 4y

    The foundations of a strong Product Marketer are going to look and feel a lot like the foundations of a strong overall marketer: Can you connect as many of your target users as possible to the value of your product? That can happen via exciting brand experiences, growth marketing nurture campaigns, well-placed social posts, and more. On most Product Marketing teams I’ve been a part of, there are two dimensions to the organizational matrix: (1.) PMMs aligned at the top level as a function, and th ...Read More

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  3. How do you retain good talent, especially when Product Marketing role are in such high demand across the industry

    Andrew Stinger
    Andrew Stinger

    Headway Staff Product Marketing Manager • 4y

    “People don’t leave bad companies, they leave bad managers” is the adage a lot of folks toss around. I’m not dusting off any “World’s Best Boss” trophies on my mantle, but from feedback from my team, I know that they appreciate when I do the following: Celebrate wins. Acknowledge & mitigate losses. Discuss what was learned. Trust and empower to deliver a better outcome the next time. Give due credit for hard work done well. Help set priorities. Over-communicate, especially in terms of broade ...Read More

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  4. What are the key processes you'd set up when expanding the Product Marketing team from 1 to multiple people?

    Andrew Stinger
    Andrew Stinger

    Headway Staff Product Marketing Manager • 4y

    While we’ve evolved the shape, size, timing, and application, some resources I either stood-up or leaned on as Coda’s first PMM that are still in use: A PMM “Hub” - Your single source of truth for all things product marketing. From “Who do I talk to about X?” to “What dashboard can I look at for Y?” to “What’s the deal with this persona?” If it’s not documented, it’s not part of your strategy. Luckily, we have a great template for Team Hubs: https://coda.io/d/Design-Team-Hub_dos6bXTG3xZ/A-beauti ...Read More

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  5. How do you create and reenforce a culture for you product marketing team as you scale it and what does yours look like?

    Andrew Stinger
    Andrew Stinger

    Headway Staff Product Marketing Manager • 4y

    In my experience, most Product Marketers want to have positive impact, and do superlative work. This means my job as a manager of Product Marketers is to get really clear on the kinds of impact we need to have as a marketing org, and what the standard for excellence is on my team. If you get really clear on those two things and have a few, well-facilitated conversations around them, the rest will follow. My team (which includes Product Marketing and several other marketing functions) knows they ...Read More

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  6. Do you have any advice for those starting out in product marketing? Are there certain things you wish you knew before going into the field?

    Advice and foresight

    Andrew Stinger
    Andrew Stinger

    Headway Staff Product Marketing Manager • 4y

    Time spent understanding the customer is not time wasted. Period. A lot folks tend to look at marketing as the “front page news” of flashy executions and campaigns that people outside of the company see and/or experience to help them understand what is you all do. There is so much work before the point of external outreach that makes a great PMM. My strongest marketers are supremely empathetic with our users and their challenges/needs. These marketers can describe users in depth, they know where ...Read More

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  7. In hiring additional Product Marketing Managers, is it more important that they have Product Marketing experience, or that they're a well-rounded marketer/communicator?

    Andrew Stinger
    Andrew Stinger

    Headway Staff Product Marketing Manager • 4y

    The answer depends on the stage of your business and the depth of your marketing bench. As one of my mentors shared with me: As you get started, you need a good pool of generalists who can do the job you hired them for—and potentially cover off short term needs that may fall out of their explicitly-defined scope. As your team grows, you should start to become more aware of some of your greatest marketing opportunities, and can hire specialists for those roles.  Just remember: Someone had to give ...Read More

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