VP of Product Marketing · Zywave
AMA: Crossbeam Senior Director Product Marketing, Amanda Groves on Establishing Product Marketing
May 10, 2023 @ 10:00AM PT
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How do you measure the impact of product marketing in your company?
The demand gen teams can optimize pipeline, MQLs and costs per lead. The sales people work to meet their quotas. Marketing support completes tickets within a time window. What objective measures do we PMMs have?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
This one gets a lawerly response - it depends! I like to use the following: attach rate as a metric for product adoption reactivations for product engagement product sign-ups for conversion upsell and expansion revenue NPS for sentiment For example, for a new organization that is trying to find product market fit - if you can attribute product sign-ups to a PMM activity like website optimization or launch program, you'll have a clear and measurable way to show ROI towards a larger company initia ...Read More
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What PMM team sizes and roles have you seen in relation to overall company and sales size, or other markers.
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
This is a great question and certainly varies by industry. In the tech landscape I've seen:
Series E with a team of 30 product marketers
Series C with a team of 8 product marketers
Series B with a team of 3 product marketers
Series A and Seed with 1 product marketer
and a partridge in a pear tree :)
The delta really lies within GTM motion. Are you a PLG company? You'll likely be more PMM heavy versus Sales-Led company where PMM is not taxed so heavily.
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You're the new PMM for a B2B SaaS company that has 40 people and is starting to scale. What should you aim to do in your first month and your first quarter?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
Here's how I typically tackle the first 30-60-90 days for establishing PMM: First 30 - Listening tours + product/data downloads Shadow sales demos, listen to customer calls on Chorus or Gong, watch Fullstory sessions and marinate in any and all of the data you can find Get your hands on the product, get so comfortable with it you can give a demo Start market research, understand your TAM (total addressable market) and personas First 60 - Assess, Align and Establish Assess orgs needs + company go ...Read More
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If you had to pick 3 measures to help track the impact of product marketing over time, what would they be and why?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
Ooo I love this question, the three things I'd prioritize tracking overtime are 1) Reactivations This is 100% within our team's ability to improve and acts as a force multiplier for every department. More active customers? Mores potential revenue. More innovation opportunities. More use cases to support. 2) Product sign-ups Given most PMM orgs start at the bottom of the funnel - product sign-ups are a primary conversion lever to continuously manage and optimize for. Similar to reactivations, thi ...Read More
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What is your 30-60-90 day plan when you go into an org with the intention of setting up Product Marketing function for the first time?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
Here's how I typically tackle the first 30-60-90 days for establishing PMM: First 30 - Listening tours + product/data downloads Shadow sales demos, listen to customer calls on Chorus or Gong, watch Fullstory sessions and marinate in any and all of the data you can find Get your hands on the product, get so comfortable with it you can give a demo Start market research, understand your TAM (total addressable market) and personas First 60 - Assess, Align and Establish Assess orgs needs + company go ...Read More
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How do you manage the transition from being the sole person responsible for product marketing activities to now having someone else who can share the burden?
One of the biggest changes when managing people and a team is handing off the responsibility to others. This is tough to do when you're so used to handling everything yourself. Any tips or suggestions on how to best make that transition?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
The best part of being in product marketing is sharing the burden - there's always something to do in the messy middle ;) I think a simple and pragmatic way to share the load is adopting a framework like the Eisenhower Matrix to help prioritize and delegate efficiently. The Eisenhower Matrix is a productivity, prioritization, and time-management framework designed to help professionals prioritize a list of tasks or agenda items by first categorizing those items according to their urgency and imp ...Read More
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With respect to mergers and acquisitions, what are the steps and priorities you take to integrate the newly acquired product into your overall product marketing strategy?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
Great question! My advice would be to remember the product stage is likely quite different than your existing product. For the new product, prioritize product market fit PMM tasks during the initial integration roll out. Steps to do this: Conduct a TAM analysis with products like Crossbeam to understand overlapping base and eligible customers for GTM. Conduct listening tours to understand target audience and personas. Build new personas and train + enable the team on target audience. Use tiering ...Read More
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At what point in building out your PMM team does it make sense to think about moving from a horizontal org chart to a vertical one? What factors do you consider when making the decision to grow horizontally vs. vertically?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
I think the switch from horizontal to vertical org charts depends on a few key factors:
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Product scope
Do you have multiple products where a vertical play is needed to support company goals?
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Team maturity
Do you have people leaders on the squad who are ready to manage ICS?
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Company stage
Do you need to specialize to support certain business goals and opportunities?
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What functional work do you prioritize as a PMM? Anything you should NOT focus on initially?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
Great question. I would tackle the PMM foundations first: Personas ICP Messaging Hierarchy Launch process with product Sales enablement needs Relationships internally and externally VoC work What NOT to focus on? Items that don't map to company goals or priorities Shiny objects High-budget/glossy requests I think the hardest part of being in PMM is prioritizing given we sit at the intersection of so many business lines - so make sure you keep guardrails on the most impactful tasks and map to out ...Read More
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What are the challenges one should be aware of when setting up a new PMM function inside the org? How can one overcome them -- any tips?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
Setting up a new product marketing function can be a challenging but rewarding task. Here are some challenges you should be aware of and some tips for overcoming them: Defining the scope: One of the biggest challenges is defining the scope of the product marketing function. This involves determining what the function will be responsible for, such as positioning, messaging, competitive analysis, sales enablement, etc. It's important to ensure that the scope is well-defined and aligned with the co ...Read More
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When establishing the PMM function in an org, how can you manage expectations and change perception if leadership (CEO, Founder, CMO) have a different interpretation of the role?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
I would try an establish common ground early and often. Ask yourself these questions: What guiding principles do you need to establish between your role and senior leadership to be successful? What latitude do you need to be successful? What core philosophies do you need alignment on to be successful? Once of you a sense of the above, set rules of engagement with leadership so you're aligned on needs. This comes before outcomes - establish your relationship and rapport. Once that's in place, dis ...Read More
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How should Product Marketers work with Growth marketers in terms of KPIs, boundaries, north star metrics, activities?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
Product marketers and growth marketers should work closely together to ensure that their efforts are aligned towards achieving the company's goals. Here are some ways they can work together effectively: Establish shared KPIs: Product marketers and growth marketers should agree on shared KPIs that reflect the company's objectives. For example, they may track metrics such as user acquisition, conversion rates, or revenue. This ensures that both teams are working towards the same goals. Define boun ...Read More
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How long do you think you should wait, as the very first Head of PMM, before you hire your first team member?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
I think this really depends on business stage and company needs. If you are in the 0-1 phase, you can likely handle the department in single player mode while bets are still manifesting. The 0 to 1 phase involves inventing something new, testing hypotheses, taking contrarian bets, soliciting market feedback, and developing products which address a validated market need. The subsequent phase of a business, i.e. going from 1 to 10, requires attention to a different set of tasks. Its success relies ...Read More
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How can one know that their product marketing function is a strategically valuable program?
Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 3y
There's two ways you can think about this: Qualitatively: Use quarterly pulse surveys to do a temp check on cross-functional department needs and efficacy of existing programs. My favorite questions to ask sales teams is: What slide deck are you updating the most? This indicates your most valuable asset that you should be paying attention to What material do you wish there was more of? Less of? This will help identify what's being used and what's being left on the editing room floor. Quantitativ ...Read More
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