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AMA: Drift Group Product Marketing Lead, Product & Solutions, Holly Xiao on Product Marketing Career Path


January 12, 2023 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. What are some good resources to practice for PMM interview questions and case studies?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    Sharebird and Product Marketing Alliance have some great resources on this topic. Glassdoor is also helpful sometimes when folks share interview questions they were asked. So I’d take full advantage of them if you haven’t already. I’ve also googled phrases like “PMM interview questions” or “preparing for a product marketing interview”. You’d be surprised how helpful some of the Medium articles are.

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  2. As a product marketer, is it important to have an online portfolio to showcase some of the work that you've done in the past?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    I don't think this is critical. But it doesn't hurt to have one if this is something that interests you!

    For most interview processes, we'll ask for work examples or have a homework assignment. So if you already have an online portfolio linked from your resume, that could save us a step.

    If you do have a portfolio, make sure it is easy to navigate/clean and tells the story you want. Having a mediocre portfolio could distract from your efforts.

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  3. Since product marketing is different at every company, what are some skills (hard and/or soft) that every PMM should have to ensure they’re as versatile as possible?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    My former manager, Christy Roach, taught me the importance of the following skills, which I've applied to my PMM career to date. (Thanks, Christy!) So copying and pasting one of her previous Sharebird answers around this below: Soft skills: Cross-functional excellence: As a PMM, you have the opportunity to lead without being a manager of people. A strong product marketer is someone who takes others along with them, rather than telling people exactly what they want them to do. They’re able to cre ...Read More

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  4. While looking at next level roles, how do you overcome hiring bias for the same domain. Your career history is what it is. Very few, if any, hiring managers are willing to look at the broad horizontal PMM skills that a candidate brings to the table.

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    I may be misinterpreting your question, so feel free to reach out on Linkedin if this doesn't answer it. But two thoughts come to mind: 1. Specialize in 1 or 2 areas of Product Marketing. I mentioned this in one of my answers above — but I'd recommend building "T-shaped" skills. This means having deep expertise in 1 to 2 areas of product marketing (like GTM strategies) AND a wide range of other core skills at the top of your T (like pricing & packaging, analyst relations, etc). It sounds lik ...Read More

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  5. If you were to hire a PMM today, what skills and attributes would you value most in a candidate?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    Go-to-market strategy and execution is probably one of the most sought-after hard skills for PMM. But a Product Marketing role varies from company to company. When hiring, I start by evaluating two things: 1. What are our business objectives? When writing a job description, I like to work backward. I always start by considering our business north stars and what pillars a new hire should be responsible for to help us achieve our strategic goals. From there, I break down the pillars into tactical ...Read More

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  6. How to develop product marketing skills while not in a PMM role (to prepare for a career switch)?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    I love this question! It’s so important to develop transferrable skills even if you aren’t in a PMM role. That proactive attitude goes a long way in interviews since it shows you're a go-getter. And that’s a quality that can’t really be taught. Here are six ways you can develop product marketing skills: 1. Tell people you're interested in Product Marketing: This doesn’t directly tie to developing PMM skills. But if you’re genuinely interested in PMM, my biggest advice is to let those around you ...Read More

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  7. What is the best way to practice Product Marketing on your own project? And what online resources you recommend? Thank you!

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    I touched on this topic in one of the questions above. That said, I think it’s wise to take a deliberate approach. Otherwise, you're just creating work without getting the output you want. I'd recommend making a list of the core PMM skills hiring managers are looking for. You can find a lot of this information in job descriptions. Once you have the list, map out what skills you can build in your current role and what those projects/responsibilities are. Assuming your manager is supportive of you ...Read More

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  8. What are your top 3 areas of importance when it comes to managing and growing your career as a PMM?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    In my experience, taking your career into your own hands is key. There will be managers who are great about having career conversations with you, and there will be managers who aren't. Be bold and bring it up on your own. Here’s what you can start doing today: 1. Know your strengths, gaps, and aspirations: Sounds basic, but it's important. Knowing your strengths and weaknesses gives you a better sense of how you operate - and a starting point for career development. If you need to figure out wha ...Read More

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  9. What's the most important piece of advice you'd have for an undergrad student who wants to land an entry-level PMM job, despite the fact that a bulk of PMM jobs require an MBA?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    The most important thing I can tell you is that your first job out of college won't define your career forever. So don't be afraid to take risks! Several large companies have associate product marketing manager programs or rotational programs that you can apply for. Make sure you check when applications must be submitted, as the programs follow a biannual (I think) schedule. With that said — generally, it's rare to start your career in product marketing because it’s often a more specialized role ...Read More

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  10. When applying to pmm jobs, how important is it to align your past experiences with the new role? (For instance, if you worked in ecommerce, only apply to ecommerce roles.)

    I've noticed that when my experience doesn't align exactly, I don't make it past round 2 or round 3 of the interview.

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    It's common for people to move from one industry to another. If you're in eCommerce right now, don't feel like you have to apply for only eCommerce jobs. At the end of the day, it’s really about how fast you can learn and hit the ground running in a new role. I'm a firm believer that you'll learn 70% of a new role while on the job. If you’re making it to the 2nd and 3rd rounds, that signals to me that the hiring manager thinks you have the right experience/skills from your resume. Many factors c ...Read More

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  11. If you know that Product Marketing is your passion and you eventually want to be a leader of product marketing, how do you continue to grow in your role over time and take on the right experiences?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    This is a tough one because there’s no “correct” answer. Product Marketing varies depending on the industry, company size, and maturity. So evaluate the “right” experiences based on what you want to learn and what you want to accomplish. I’d challenge you to put the title aside and focus more on the responsibilities that interest you. Generally speaking, the more senior you get, the broader your scope. So I’d say it’s important to:  1. Develop more cross-discipline expertise vs deep discipline e ...Read More

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  12. What are some tips for getting into the product marketing field?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    I answered a similar question below so copying my answer here. It’s so important to develop transferrable skills even if you aren’t in a PMM role. That proactive attitude goes a long way in interviews since it shows you're a go-getter. And that’s a quality that can’t really be taught. Here are six ways you can develop product marketing skills: 1. Tell people you're interested in Product Marketing: This doesn’t directly tie to developing PMM skills. But if you’re genuinely interested in PMM, my b ...Read More

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  13. What is the single most important thing to consider when choosing a company?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    This really depends on what you value and what makes you happy as an individual. When evaluating a company, it's important to take a variety of factors into account.  As a visual person, I always list the pros and cons of every company I interview at. By doing this, I can clearly see what tradeoffs I'd have to make if I joined those companies. Then I ask myself: where will I be most fulfilled? Do the pros outweigh the cons? This is not an exhaustive list. But here are just a few aspects to consi ...Read More

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  14. Any productivity hacks or tools you've found to stay organized and on top of everything going on as a product marketer?

    I'm always interested to hear how successful PMMs stay on top of it all.

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    Where to start! There are so many productivity tools out there. These are my top ones: Asana: The Drift Marketing team uses Asana religiously. And Asana has been my go-to tool for launching products and managing other initiatives at my last three companies. At some point in your career, Asana will likely come in handy, even if you've never used it. Mem.io: My co-worker introduced this to me last year, and it’s now one of my daily productivity tools. In short, it’s an AI-powered note-taking app. ...Read More

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  15. How realistic is it to get into PMM role from a Brand / Product Manager role? (previous experience in a Consumer Goods company)

    My guess is that the skillset is there and it's the industry experience that is lacking. I worked on Product Launches, Pricing, Packaging, Positioning, Analytics, Strategy, User Reasearch, Stakeholder Management etc yet never getting any invites to the interviews. Any tips what to work on?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    I think it’s very realistic! As a Brand expert, you know how to tell stories through brand attributes. As for product management, it's more related to product marketing. So you probably work with PMMs a lot and are familiar with the operating rhythms. Based on what you shared, you already have a good amount (and diverse) of product marketing experience. If you’re not getting interview invites, one reason could be that it’s not clear that you have all the PMM experience that you’ve listed. I’d go ...Read More

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  16. How can I get into B2B SaaS product marketing from my current B2B SaaS Solution Engineer role? Could you highlight the transferable skills and gaps you see in this case. How to address the gaps?

    Holly Xiao
    Holly Xiao

    HeyGen Head of B2B Marketing • 3y

    Without a ton of context on your role and the product/services you’re representing, I’d say that the most important thing to keep in mind is how you position yourself — and really lean into what sets you apart from other PMMs (e.g your technical skills). There are technical product marketing roles that require more technical aptitude. For these roles, your technical skills set you apart from less-technical PMMs. So if you’re an engineer who enjoys story-telling, I think you've got a great shot a ...Read More

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