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AMA: Enable VP of Product Marketing, Amanda Groves on Messaging


December 17, 2024 @ 10:00AM PT

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Amanda Groves

VP of Product Marketing Ā· Zywave

šŸ‘‹ Hi I'm Amanda Groves.. Philly native (Go Flyers!), Pittsburgh transplant (Go Panthers!)
šŸ’¼ I currently am the VP of Product Marketing at Zywave, an InsurTech company focused on helping carriers and brokers manage, protect, and grow their book of business intelligently.
šŸ‘€ Topics of interest for me are managing M&A and integrating offerings... AI product innovation/roll out and building high-performance PMM teams.
šŸ¤ Topics I am help with... adopting agile marketing, core PMM/Solution PMM, new product introduction process/tiering and pricing and packaging.
šŸ¦ Favorite ice cream flavor.. mochi!
  1. How do you get alignment across the org in the story and messaging?

    Amanda Groves
    Amanda Groves

    Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 1y

    Aligning the organization on story and messaging comes down to collaboration, clarity, and consistency. Here's how to nail it: Get everyone involved early and often. Bring in product, sales, and customer-facing teams from day one. Workshop the key pain points, value props, and differentiators together to ensure everyone’s voice is heard. Coalesce your thoughts in a framework Lock in core pillars—like, "Connect, Capture, Grow." This becomes the single source of truth that every team can adapt for ...Read More

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  2. What types of messaging documents or frameworks are typically shared with stakeholders from different teams (i.e. product, marketing, execs, etc.)?

    Amanda Groves
    Amanda Groves

    Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 1y

    I like to developing messaging documents based on the outcome we're driving towards. For example, if the need is surrounding company positioning, I'll use a strategic messaging map that's structured as a waterfall and ordered as follows: Positioning messaging that includes: Tagline, headline Positioning statement 25 word description Then target customer that includes: Business function, title and influence Then problem statements that include: Pain thresholds that make value props aspirin and no ...Read More

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  3. In your opinion, how much time and effort does messaging & positioning for a product take?

    Assume you're starting from scratch, as a new hire or launching a new product

    Amanda Groves
    Amanda Groves

    Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 1y

    Similarly to sizing a launch, I would consider a tiering calculator to help assess effort v. impact for product messaging and positioning as it really depends on product complexity. A tier 1 launch can take anywhere from 10-12 weeks (post dev complete stage), so knowing there is a significant lift and corresponding impact, the messaging and positioning work will inherently be more consuming than a tier 2, 3 or 4 product launch. Fortunately, there are tools to help expedite composition and valida ...Read More

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  4. What are you best practices for creating differentiated messaging while still keeping it simple/not too full of jargon so it best resonates with customers?

    Amanda Groves
    Amanda Groves

    Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 1y

    It sounds cliche to say, but we have to use the words of our customers to avoid the "sea of sameness." This can be accomplished by running listening tours (gong/chorus), attending events, surveying, or running messaging tests via third-party tools like Wynter. Once you've landed on key concepts, lean on messaging frameworks like Emma Stratton's "Keep it Punchy" where she advises to write as it you're explaining something at a weekend BBQ. If you keep messaging conversational and friendly, you'll ...Read More

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  5. What are the specific tools and frameworks you use to create positioning and messaging?

    Amanda Groves
    Amanda Groves

    Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 1y

    Some of my favorite go-to frameworks are Donald Miller's Building a Storybrand, Messaging - Emma Stratton, and Positioning - April Dunford. For example, if you need to develop launch narrative you can use Donald Miller's "StoryBrand" framework to orient your thoughts: Here are the steps: A Character (your customer) Has a Problem (they need to solve) And Meets a Guide (your business/product) Who Gives Them a Plan (your solutions) And Calls Them to Action (to start the buying process) That Ends in ...Read More

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  6. How has AI impacted developer marketing messaging? What new messaging techniques can PMMs adopt to be more effective because of AI?

    Amanda Groves
    Amanda Groves

    Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 1y

    AI has transformed developer marketing by enabling hyper-personalization, allowing marketers to speak directly to a developer’s specific challenges and use cases. For example, instead of sending generic emails about a new API, you can now use AI to analyze developer behavior—like the programming languages they use or the types of projects they build—and tailor messaging accordingly. Imagine a developer working on a Python-based data pipeline. With AI, your outreach could focus on how your produc ...Read More

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  7. How often do you recommend refining your story?

    Amanda Groves
    Amanda Groves

    Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 1y

    Quarterly or bi-annually is fine! Enough to keep tabs on market, product, and persona changes...

    Some other conditions to consider:

    • triggered by product launches, market changes, audience feedback

    In addition to these touch points an annual deep dive should be completed. This would involve a full audit on your story that includes reassessing the market landscape, revalidate your positioning and ensure your framework still has legs.

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  8. Shopify has a diverse audience. How do you ensure consistency and clarity when marketing to them?

    Amanda Groves
    Amanda Groves

    Zywave VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Crossbeam, 6sense, JazzHR, Imagine Learning, Appsembler • 1y

    If your org has a strong data stack, you should be able to segment, target and message accordingly. Messaging and positioning also depends by journey stage and micro-funnel eg., next best action in the journey.

    Nothing is one size fits all.. even with diverse audiences there's some legwork involved to replace kitchen sync with Michelin star messaging. If your team has core values, make sure you anchor messaging there and then segment, alter, and ship appropriately.

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