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AMA: HubSpot Principal Marketing Manager - Product GTM & Enablement, Justin Graci on Sales Enablement


November 23, 2022 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. Is there a framework for creating good sales enablement decks for new B2B products or training new sales rep on your product?

    Eg: How do you structure it? I can imagine some standard sections such as Competition, Market Problem but are there standard "must haves" section that have worked well.

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    Here are some of the top sections I'd include:

    1. Positioning / value prop
    2. ICP (with good-fit indicators)
    3. Buyer personas
    4. Use cases
    5. Competitive landscape (with supporting comparison assets)
    6. Proof (case studies, research, data, customer wins, 3rd party reviews)
    7. Feature overview
    8. Discovery questions
    9. Objection Handling
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  2. If you were implementing a B2B Marketing and Sales Enablement program, what are the first 5 assets you would create?

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    My answer would change depending on what we're talking about (B2b Marketing program vs Sales enablement program).

    For a sales enablement program:

    1. Pitch Deck
    2. Product use case glossary
    3. Case study
    4. Discovery question list or Demo video
    5. (this isn't necessarily an asset) Prospecting lists / target account lists w/ enriched data
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  3. Which sales materials have been most helpful?

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    This is probably pretty standard for most companies, but these sales materials have been the most used: One pagers / data sheets (product overviews, use cases, etc.) Pitch decks that reps can customize and/or leverage 'templated slides' for easy 'drag and drop' presentation building when prepping for a meeting Quick hit videos -- these are usually short product demo or use case clips they can share Beyond the well known ones above, we've seen reps finding a ton of value in higher value things li ...Read More

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  4. What's the best way to ensure that sales uses the sales enablement content that marketing creates...even if there WAS collaboration on the content?

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    Here are a few tips for ensuring your sales team leverages the content you create:  Make sure the content can easily be found. Have a central, go-to place that reps can find all your content. This can be a 3rd party platform such as Highspot, Seismic, or Allbound. Or it can be a more simple Airtable/Spreadsheet that has proper filtering if you're on a budget. Of course with a platform you'll get data/insights into what's working, what's not, so I recommend a platform vs spreadsheet.  Keep the co ...Read More

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  5. How do you assess which sales enablement materials are the most effective?

    As B2B product marketers we want to be able to identify which sales enablement assets (i.e. one pagers, pitch decks, etc) are the most impactful to guide future resoure investment decisions but oftentimes tracking of these materials can be challenging since it frequently requires manual tracking on the part of the sales team.

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    This is always a difficult one. Sometimes it can be easier to solve with technology, while other times it's a bit more difficult to track/measure. With technology: You can track which content is being sent out/used You can track how many reps are 'customizing' a deck in their workspace etc. However, the issue with this is that you might see a pitch deck you worked hard on isn't being used at all. In that case, you need to evalutate whether its an adoption issue or a quality issue (ie. not the ri ...Read More

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  6. What is your tactic when salespeople continually ask you for materials, when you've shown them where they live multiple times? And no one else is confused by that but one specific salesperson?

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    I've learned that the best way to solve this sort of problem is to stop spoon feeding them every time. Yes, once at first is fine, but if this is one particular sales person every single time, then don't give them the direct link to what they needed and instead tell them where to find it and let them find it on their own. Here is what that looks like: Sales Rep: Hey marketer/enablement lead, do you know if we have any one pagers about X? Marketer: Hey there, yes I believe we do have what you're ...Read More

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  7. How do you recommend setting up a process for marketing to support sales when that doesn't already exist? Think scrappy startup phase! :)

    I'm a product marketer who has never had to work with sales before because I've always worked for low-cost B2C SaaS companies that have a short marketing funnel without handholding needed for sales. I'm currently working with an early-stage client that is just starting to put together marketing materials and email flows.

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    Sounds like you've entered a fun career path! Prior to working at HubSpot, I worked at a startup/scaleup and learned a ton about being scrappy. I might need a bit more context on exactly what type of support you mean, but if I can read between the lines a bit, I'll do my best to provide a few tips. It sounds like you're doing two things... 1) creating content sales can use and 2) creating nurture email flows to support sales. So let me break that into two sections Creating sales content: I'd rec ...Read More

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  8. How do you get input from Sales on marketing content ideas and feedback?

    Some of the best marketing ideas for content come from the sales team.

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    Great question. I suggest all marketers to collaborate with their sales team. At my previous company, marketers were required to shadow a certain number of sales calls per month. This was a great way for us to understand their process, hear what prospects are saying, and align what we're doing. In terms of engaging Sales for input, here is what I'd suggest: Find a core group of sales reps who will be your champions. For us, we identified a group of around 5 reps in the segment we were focused on ...Read More

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  9. How do you tell a multi-product story through sales collateral?

    for example, how do you tie products to fit together instead of going to market with one product/one focus point?

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    Identify use cases where both products come together to compliment one another or build a better solution together. Another way to approach it is by identifying products that share similar/same personas. As an example, we have a Marketing product and a CMS product. Those two products go together well, because oftentimes marketers are not only in charge of their campaigns, but also the website. We also know that for a marketer to build a proper digital experience / buying experience for their cus ...Read More

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  10. How do product marketers work with sales enablement people? What are the roles and responsibilities?

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    This depends on how your organization is structured and what responsibities you define for Product Marketing. Sometimes product marketing plays a big role in enablement, while at other companies they just provide the messaging/value props/etc that enablement then uses as a framework for their enablement. But generally, product marketing focuses on: Product positioning Value props Feature naming Pricing and packaging Talk tracks Overview of what a product is and why it matters Core assets, such a ...Read More

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  11. How often do you meet with the sales team?

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    Our product marketing team meets with the sales team fairly regularly. We have a few formats: Monthly 'sales feedback panel' meeting Monthly marketing/sales showcase townhall (where marketing walks through the latest/greatest assets and how to use them) 1:1 or 1:few meetings whenever kicking off a new asset or campaign to gather sales rep feedback and input to help guide the direction And beyond those, our leaders meet with sales leaders regularly to align on strategic priorities for the busines ...Read More

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  12. When launching a significant sub-product (e.g. an enterprise version of an existing product) how do you strike the right balance of enabling your sales team without bombarding them with dizzying details?

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    This question would likely require more details/specifics for me to answer fully, but I'll do my best!  If you organize your sales team by market segment, then you could focus the enterprise product details on your enterprise segment reps, while the broader set of reps focus on the existing product offering. If you have one sales team that covers all segments, then you'll need to find more of a balance. And with that, I'd make sure you don't over compensate on the new enterprise offering right o ...Read More

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  13. What's the most reliable way to measure performance of intangible sales enablement (such as training, objection handling, trap setting)?

    For instance, it's easy to jerry-rig performance to a one-sheeter that was sent in the course of a deal, but I'm having trouble finding ways to measure performance for intangible efforts that improve sales performance but isn't easily attributable to revenue.

    Justin Graci
    Justin Graci

    HubSpot Marketing Fellow - Partner GTM & Product Readiness • 3y

    Great question. When it comes to measuring objection handling: Leverage a conversation intelligence tool such as Gong, where you can report on keywords within sales calls and attribute those conversations to deal pipelines. For training: The best way to measure impact of a training is to run 'workshops' in addition to a training such as an eLearning. For example... I'd recommend reps taking an eLearning that walks through the 'what and the why' and then organize a workshop where they put it to p ...Read More

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