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AMA: Pinterest Director of PMM, International, Susan "Spark" Park on Product Marketing Goals


March 4, 2025 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. Should PMM be fully responsible for adoption? What's a good framework for shared adoption goals with sales and/or product?

    Susan "Spark" Park
    Susan "Spark" Park

    Pinterest Director of Product Marketing | Formerly Meta (Facebook), Spotify, Google, Monzo • 1y

    Product Management should own the adoption number, because it's indicative of their ability to build a successful product. Product Marketing is an accelerant function, and should be delivering ideas on how to exceed the goal. So Product Marketing should play an active role in increasing that number and responsible for ideas on the growth. It's a metric that should be extremely important to both functions. Thus, when thinking goals with sales and or product team, the most important number to come ...Read More

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  2. What KPIs do you recommend for organizations that aren't data driven? As in, where's a good place to start?

    Susan "Spark" Park
    Susan "Spark" Park

    Pinterest Director of Product Marketing | Formerly Meta (Facebook), Spotify, Google, Monzo • 1y

    Start with the why. Why isn't this organization data-driven?

    Unpack the history, and why certain things are important and how they drive the outputs that the business values. Then build metrics from their importance and get buy in on those measures.

    It would be very hard to change the culture of entire organization, unless you're leading it. If not, figure out the why and how you can affect that why long-term so you can be aligned on the outputs that the organization wants to produce.

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  3. How do you evaluate the impact of product marketing campaigns on customer adoption and retention rates? What metrics do you use to measure this impact?

    Susan "Spark" Park
    Susan "Spark" Park

    Pinterest Director of Product Marketing | Formerly Meta (Facebook), Spotify, Google, Monzo • 1y

    Product marketing is an accelerant function. If you drive a change in the behaviours like additional programs, marketing, activation work, measure the uplift of either. Even if it's a new product, there should be a forecast of baseline perspective of activities, or what is expected or hoped to accomplish. If there isn't, that should be the first step to assess before moving into additional activities. Assess what is needed, what the baseline is and then you can drive activation programs that are ...Read More

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  4. When introducing a new product, which KPIs are most critical in the early stages, and why?

    Susan "Spark" Park
    Susan "Spark" Park

    Pinterest Director of Product Marketing | Formerly Meta (Facebook), Spotify, Google, Monzo • 1y

    Retention. Always retention of the product when it's new. If you're not retaining people, you have a leaky funnel and your product is not ready to be widely distributed. If you're retaining customers and they're staying, you can continue on and expand. Never ignore retention in the early stage of a product.

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  5. What is the most difficult KPI to measure or influence?

    Susan "Spark" Park
    Susan "Spark" Park

    Pinterest Director of Product Marketing | Formerly Meta (Facebook), Spotify, Google, Monzo • 1y

    Revenue. So many teams touch revenue. It's the hardest to distribute credit to, and most companies follow a last touch/last click method or multiple teams take credit for the whole revenue number. It also is the toughest to move because you have to convince people to buy something. This is why I often like to take on change goals or uplift goals vs. the revenue number. The goal of product marketing is to be an accelerant and drive change to what the number's course was moving at. Be the accelera ...Read More

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  6. How do you establish a process around measuring a launch success and what KPIs would you suggest?

    Susan "Spark" Park
    Susan "Spark" Park

    Pinterest Director of Product Marketing | Formerly Meta (Facebook), Spotify, Google, Monzo • 1y

    Retention would always be the top of my list to monitor around a launch. This simple view of whether or not customers are sticking around will tell you more about the success of your product than even revenue or customers in. For example, think about products like Threads that brought in hundreds of millions of users, but very few stuck around after months of usage. While many products have had explosive growth, it can be temporary. Retentive customers can most likely be monetized or grown over ...Read More

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  7. How do you ensure that KPIs are aligned with strategic objectives (and not just KPIs)

    Susan "Spark" Park
    Susan "Spark" Park

    Pinterest Director of Product Marketing | Formerly Meta (Facebook), Spotify, Google, Monzo • 1y

    The Product Marketers' KPIs should roll-up into metrics that will change a business. Those are generally are in two buckets: Customers and Revenue. If these KPIs are not analysing how you're getting more customers or gaining more revenue, then you're probably tracking a useless KPI when it comes to marketing. Product teams can have other KPIs that are valuable to their infrastructure and reaction goals like responsiveness. But with marketing, if your KPIs are not telling a story or eventually ge ...Read More

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  8. What KPI's do you see product marketing and product management sharing?

    Susan "Spark" Park
    Susan "Spark" Park

    Pinterest Director of Product Marketing | Formerly Meta (Facebook), Spotify, Google, Monzo • 1y

    I think adoption of the product ultimately is a Product Management owned goal. I actually believe most goals are owned by the Product Management team. It's up to the Product Marketing team to understand those goals and accelerate or go above what product thinks they can get. Product Marketing should understand the baseline of that goal, and taking credit for the uplift from that baseline, and place their efforts towards the products that they can impact the most change in either customer or reve ...Read More

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