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AMA: Podium VP, Product Marketing, Hally Pinaud on Messaging


February 1, 2022 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. As a new product marketer I am struggling with messaging. What is the best way to develop this skill?

    Hally Pinaud
    Hally Pinaud

    Former VP, Product Marketing, Apollo.io • 4y

    With early career product marketers, I find that messaging struggles are often tied to one or more of the following things:  Not knowing where to start Issues editing / punching up the language  Developing messaging in a vacuum  Not the messaging itself, but getting stakeholder buy-in on it The most important thing you can do to grow your skill is get some at-bats. But here are some actionable tips for improving your work if any of the challenges above feel like growth opportunities for you. "I ...Read More

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  2. How do you juggle the different voices wanting to weigh in on messaging, and make sure you're not watering things down with a "messaging by committee" situation?

    Hally Pinaud
    Hally Pinaud

    Former VP, Product Marketing, Apollo.io • 4y

    I call this the "seagull phenomenon." It's kind of incredible how many folks can swoop in to make a mess on a messaging project. As a product marketer, your challenge is to find ways to make key stakeholders heard, but also curate their input on your path to messaging that works. Four hard-won tips here: Start with who needs to be involved. I'm a fan of establishing a RASCI or RAPID framework before embarking on a messaging project. Drive alignment on roles and appropriate involvement. Get an ex ...Read More

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  3. For a highly technical product offering, how much messaging emphasis should be placed on technical value versus overall business value that your solution provides?

    Hally Pinaud
    Hally Pinaud

    Former VP, Product Marketing, Apollo.io • 4y

    If you get to know who you're talking to, it's a lot easier to know what to say. That's a core tenet of messaging and being a good conversationalist in general. Your first step with a question like this is to establish buyer personas. Who's involved in the buying committee? Are they the key decision maker or an influencer? What do they need to know? If you don't know, start by doing win/loss in partnership with your revenue teams. Try to get a handle on who was involved in recent purchase decisi ...Read More

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  4. My CEO is always saying we are selling a commodity. How do you create messaging and positioning around something that is considered undifferentiated?

    Any good resources for developing your skills? Is there a good class or a book?

    Hally Pinaud
    Hally Pinaud

    Former VP, Product Marketing, Apollo.io • 4y

    Others have said this but it bears repeating: if you product is truly undifferentiated, then marketing is your path forward. Feature/function is a losing battle in this scenario. Figure out your brand marketing and how to give the buyer a little something extra that makes your product the top-of-mind choice. Frankly, I think consumer brands have this on lock. What's one brand of orange juice compared to another? In a blind taste-test, not much. But I'll buy Florida Natural because somehow the wa ...Read More

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  5. When do you stop iterating on messaging? How often should you revisit it?

    Hally Pinaud
    Hally Pinaud

    Former VP, Product Marketing, Apollo.io • 4y

    Never stop iterating. But first, let's establish that there are degrees of iteration. To use a home improvement analogy, there's down-to-the-studs rebuild and then there's freshening up the paint. The latter should happen all the time. Basically anytime you have a notable release. The former requires organizational alignment as much as actual messaging work and shouldn't be taken on lightly. If you're in tech product marketing, you should look at change to the product as an opportunity to improv ...Read More

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