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AMA: SignEasy Former Head Of Product Marketing, Daniel Palay on Market Research


March 30, 2021 @ 10:00AM PT

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  1. How do you keep competitive, personas, and market research info up-to-date and moving from product marketing to sales materials?

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    In the "real world" this is a function of whose responsibility sales collateral is. If it's product marketing, the answer is simple: Supply new collateral when it's time for an update. However, if product marketing is responsible for informing, and letting sales create its own materials, then it becomes more complicated. For me, it all starts with the buyer personas (or, as I like to refer to them, stakeholder profiles). I have a particular way of approaching these, leveraging psychographic, rat ...Read More

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  2. What constitutes a competitor, and what is the goal you have in mind when you conduct competitor analysis?

    What is your philosophy when it comes to competitors?

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    Interesting question about how I define "compeititor" in and of itself. I tend to look at competitors as barriers that keep people from buying the product I'm selling. Sometimes its a comparable product, sometimes it's an alternate type of solution and sometimes it's nothing at all. The question driving competitor analysis is always: Why? Why is it that customers are gravitating towards buying/staying with an alternative (including doing nothing new/different)?  I hate feature-for-feature compar ...Read More

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  3. Can you share best practices to do impactful market research on a tight budget?

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    That all depends on the type of research, its purpose and the impact you hope it will have. The most impactful research, for me, has always been primary market research in the form of interviews with a population representative of the intended audience. All that costs is my time ("opportunity cost" is a discussion for another day).  On the other hand, sometimes the impact comes from the existence of the research in and of itself. For example, a report commissioned from a big-name research firm m ...Read More

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  4. How have you historically sourced people to interview while developing personas?

    Especially if you don't have any customers that fit the bill my current plan is to assemble a list of possible titles and have my virtual assistant company prospect for and find contact details for them then probably send out a survey to validate if they're the right people to talk to and reach out individually to the ones that fit the bill.

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    First things first, I believe that a representative sampling of non-customers can actually be a better source of information than current customers, so you're in a good position there. However, I wouldn't start with a survey. I would instead start internally (product and sales) to understand who this was built for, what it can do for them, why they should care and how they react when presented with it.  Quality interviews with product and sales should help you figure out your "who" for profiling ...Read More

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  5. When your sales team are already having daily 1on1 conversations with clients, what is the best approach in engaging with these clients for market research without being interruptive?

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    I love this question, partly because it allows me to address what I consider to be one of the great misconceptions of product marketing-related research. In my opinion, and experience, your engagements need not be with existing customers and, in fact, sometimes it's better if they're not. When I was consulting, rarely would I talk to my clients' actual customers when helping them build personas. Why? Two reasons: 1. The questions I had applied equally to customers/non-customers. 2. No existing b ...Read More

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  6. How do you integrate market research at each GTM stage, from business case justification to launch readiness and post-launch adoption?

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    The part I am most experienced with is the business case justification. Indeed, I tend to build business case justifications and personas into a single narrative in order to make my story lines speak to the issues most important to each stakeholder. Primary market research (1:1 interviews) is the best way to build personas (that inform what stakeholders think about most/most often, and the incentives they're responding to). The resulting personas/profiles are by far the greatest driver of the ul ...Read More

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  7. How do you conduct Marketing Research?

    Walk us through the process you use to gain customers insights at Audible and in other organizations

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    There are two parts to this: That research which I actually conduct, and that which I lean on from elsewhere. Typically, the only research I ever conduct myself are 1:1 interviews with either customers or other relevant stakeholders. This is what I use to build my stakeholder profiles (buyer personas) and is meant to inform what's most often/intensely on these stakeholders' minds and what incentives they are responding to. Other forms of market research I leverage include professional analysts, ...Read More

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  8. What advice do you have for new grads looking to get into product marketing?

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    The problem is that there still aren't too many good entry-level PMM roles out there (assuming you're talking about coming out of undergrad). My best advice (as someone who didn't come to PMM until they were in their mid-30s) would be: Find a role that allows you to develop the skills PMMs ultimately need to bring. Don't worry too much about industry, just make sure it's one where you're curious enough about the products, customers and problems to keep you intellectually motivated. That will ser ...Read More

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  9. What ways do you use your Voice of Customer insights / data internally?

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    Voice of Customer insights are a great way to 1) see trends among customers (if enough are saying the same thing) and 2) check our own collective understanding of what we do. Sometimes, VoC will suggest that our customers are seeing something differently than we intended. It may be a single interaction that turns us on to this, but it opens our eyes to alternate interpretations of what we do and how the market perceives us. In short, it's great for hypothesis formulation. 

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  10. How do you know you’re conducting thorough enough market research, in order to reduce the amount of unknown unknowns?

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    Great question, and I love discussing topics like "unknown unknowns." My primary advice would be: Don't mistake "thorough enough" for "specific enough" when it comes to market research. The most thorough research in the world can still have significant blindspots if it's not specific enough. In other words, it all comes down to the questions used to preface your research. If they're overly broad and vague, the best research in the world won't capture the relevant data.  Begin any research initia ...Read More

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  11. What market research tools do you recommend for efficiency?

    Daniel Palay
    Daniel Palay

    KPI Sense Chief Executive Officer • 5y

    Unfortunately, I'm probably not the best one to query about various tools for this - I'm the guy who still takes all his notes with a pen, has a total of four apps downloaded to his phone and refuses to own a watch with a battery, let alone a touch screen. My market research is similarly very old-school and my interviews are recorded in notebooks and analyzed by laying notes out on my desk...  I'll admit, for someone whose job it is to market SaaS, I'm a little like the tailor whose pants never ...Read More

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