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AMA: Calendly Head of Product Marketing, Jeff Hardison on Growth Product Marketing


August 10, 2021 @ 10:00AM PT

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Jeff Hardison

VP of Product Marketing · Sanity.io

Hi, everyone. I'm the former VP of product marketing at Calendly. Also have had product marketing leadership roles at Clearbit, InVision, and HP.

👋 Based in:
Portland, Oregon
🧠 Top of mind:
Balancing AI use with what humans do well
💬 Ask me about:
Anything!
🍦 Fun fact:
I used to compete in Moth-style storytelling events
  1. How do you drive alignment across the exec team on messaging

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    I feel fortunate that I’ve led positioning/messaging workshops since I graduated college because I worked for an agency that mandated them for every project we worked on for tech clients.  Getting an exec team to agree on a document outlining positioning and messaging isn't the hard part in my opinion. The difficult part is to get the messaging to stick once you put it out in the world: on a homepage, in a blog post, an ad, a slide deck for sales, etc. When positioning and messaging is put to us ...Read More

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  2. What is Growth Product Marketing and how is it different? What are ways a PMM can demonstrate expertise in Growth PMM?

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    Growth can mean different things in different orgs. In some orgs, a growth person owns acquiring new users (with performance marketing or ads, and so forth). In other orgs, growth helps with proposing and testing different growth levers (e.g., an invite-a-friend option in-app, adding signup-for-free CTAs to collaboration opportunities such as an email a Calendly meeting invitee receives). Sometimes, growth owns the lifecycle marketing from signup to first-time user experience in app to emails an ...Read More

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  3. How has your product marketing team traditionally worked with demand generation / growth marketing?

    At our company, demand gen is a much bigger function than product marketing so they drive all of the campaigns with our input, but I came from an organization where we lead the campaign strategy a bit more since we had more numbers. Anyone have a good solid process they use with their demand gen team?

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    First, I try real hard to let go of my ego and temporarily forget about the past (e.g., how I worked with demand gen in another company). Every company’s marketing department is structured differently, and it’s important to quickly adapt. Then, I try to be human and have a conversation with each demand gen person, asking how can we help them achieve their goals. Sign up for some activities to help them with some shared KPIs. Once you get some shared wins, other departments tend to start trusting ...Read More

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  4. How would you approach this product marketing interview assignment?

    I interviewed earlier this year and did well except for this assignment. I'm hoping to better prepare for similar situations. Here's the quest: As mentioned, the next part of this process is to complete a brief assignment. The purpose of this assignment is just to see your methodology get some insight into your approach to tasks. For this assignment, I'd like for you to create a high-level go-to-market plan and strategy for our flagship product our event marketing platform. Our company traditionally has targeted enterprise b2b companies. I'd like you to come up with high-level messaging, define who the target audience is, and then detail your strategy for informing the market about our event platform and getting more leads. Please identify which channels you would use, and what you would need for this go-to-market launch. Please keep your response under 2 pages

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    I’d have to see your assignment response to make recommendations! And I probably shouldn’t print my recommendations here publicly, as this company probably wants to keep the assignment confidential. Feel free to befriend me on LinkedIn, and I'll take a look at your assignment and give you feedback. 

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  5. If you have to improve the adoption rate of a SaaS product, where would you start?

    Like what are the first things you would check/do?

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    Oh, man, big question! It really depends on the product and company. But if I have to generalize...First, I’d try to get crystal clear on what we mean by adoption rate. Is that net-new free signups? Is that activation of those signups? Let’s say it’s it’s activation of those signups for discussion purposes. The second thing I recommend is sign up for free (if you're PLG) for your company’s product using a burner email and record your screen going through the first-time user experience. What scre ...Read More

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  6. How do you define product marketing differently in a product-led growth company vs. a traditional company with a normal sales and marketing funnel?

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    This is one of my favorite topics, and I write more extensively about product-led marketing versus sales-led marketing on the Product-Led Growth Collective site: https://www.productled.org/blog/marketers-prepare-product-led-growth The tl;dr, though: In many product-led growth (PLG) companies non-salespeople (e.g., product managers, designers, engineers, founders, etc.) helping to create the actual product have the initial greatest influence on what product marketing does. In many PLG companies, ...Read More

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  7. How much of your growth marketing tactics based around acquisition, and how much are they based around retention?

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    Each quarter, our team is generally proposing helping with KPIs around:

    - acquisition of new users

    - activating those new users

    - expanding or upgrading users (using their credit card to buy something more)

    - retaining those users month over month, and year over year

    - talking to sales about our Enterprise plan

    How much effort we put it into each really depends on the needs of the business, but we’re generally doing something for each.

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  8. Growth is very quantitatively focused and product marketing is qualitatively focused. How do you create a shared KPI between both functions?

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    First off, I love shared KPIs between departments (particularly between product management and product marketing management)! I’m happy you’re thinking this way. Historically, some organizations did measure product marketing qualitatively. Did XYZ department feel supported by PMM? Or even in a “binary” fashion. Did product marketing launch the product? Did they train sales? Did they help conduct research? Yes or no? Increasingly, though, companies are measuring product marketing more quantitativ ...Read More

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  9. How do you manage launches when the product team has a difficult time sticking to timelines?

    This makes launches pretty difficult to manage without creating large lapses in communication.

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    It's very common -- particularly in modern software companies -- for product teams to move timelines based on engineering constraints, customer feedback in the beta-testing process, and more. All product marketers wrestle with this situation. So, realize you're not alone! I recommend explaining what's in it for the product-engineering-design team. Do they want much-anticipated recognition for and usage of the product they've toiled for so many months on? Then, let's set a date. Do they want a lo ...Read More

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  10. As a product marketer, what tactics do you use to impact product roadmap?

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    I just say, "I really think this feature idea is really cool!" 

    Just kidding.

    One of my go-to tactics is compiling customer feedback about a problem or feature idea from several customers. Create a Notion document, outline the problem, and list several quotes from customers about said problem. Even better, get Gong/Chorus recordings of the customers talking about the problem to bring the issue to life. 

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  11. How do you approach your work geared toward individual users (B2C) vs. your B2B/enterprise customers?

    Jeff Hardison
    Jeff Hardison

    Sanity.io VP of Product Marketing | Formerly Calendly, InVision, Clearbit, Amazon (consultant) • 4y

    Because product marketing is such a collaborative function -- we're like diplomats and glue between product-engineering-design, marketing, customer success, and sales (if you have it) -- I try to open up my "empathy reserves" for the various departments I'm going to work with. If it's B2C, I think about product-engineering-design, customer support (dealing with thousands of tickets), and my friends in marketing. If it's B2B, I think about all of the above plus the sales team (which is likely a n ...Read More

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