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AMA: Pendo.io VP Product Marketing, Jackie Palmer on Analyst Relationships


April 4, 2024 @ 10:00AM PT

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Jackie Palmer

VP Product Marketing · ActiveCampaign

I am an accomplished product marketing leader with 20+ years of experience in product strategy, product marketing, and product management for fast-growing software companies. As a hands-on leader, I love to build and mentor teams and am an expert at cross-functional team building, bridging the technical and non-technical divide.

In my current role as VP of Product Marketing at ActiveCampaign, I lead a team of rockstar product and customer marketers that help small teams power big businesses via our autonomous marketing platform and AI agents that imagine, activate, and validate your marketing.
  1. Can you share your tips on making a great analyst briefing deck?

    I'm about to make my companies first analyst briefing deck. I've made them in the past but want to make a really kick ass one this time around.

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    There are three types of analyst briefing decks you need to be able to prepare. The first is a quarterly update. I use these quarterly briefings to stay in touch with my analyst community and share new things that have happened in the quarter. I usually do them at the end of the first month of the next quarter so the revenue numbers are ready. My agenda for this type of briefing deck is: Quarter Business Momentum - use this to communicate any growth and numbers you can share. I've found that eve ...Read More

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  2. How do you drive culture change with market research?

    I'm hoping to influence Product and Design to talk to users more and build a clear picture of our user. The team will often refer to themselves as "the consumer" when they're not in our target demographic?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    One of the best things you can do as a product marketer is provide market research value back to your PM team and your execs. You should be following the analysts that cover your market and reading every report they publish. Ideally you are summarizing those articles for your PM team, highlighting key stats, predictions, trends, and competitive insights you find. Your PMs usually can't read the reports themselves as they won't have logins but you can produce summaries. Gartner has even started t ...Read More

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  3. What is the anatomy of a great analyst briefing deck?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    There are three types of analyst briefing decks you need to be able to prepare. The first is a quarterly update, the second is the product update, and the third is the evaluation briefing. I outlined my approach to each of these in a previous answer so here I wanted to highlight the key ingredient in a successful analyst briefing deck. The absolute key thing to include in any analyst briefing deck is customer proof. Whether it's new competitive wins you highlight in a quarterly briefing, beta cu ...Read More

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  4. How do you keep competitive, personas, and market research info up-to-date and moving from product marketing to sales materials?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    One of the hardest things for product marketing teams is to keep things up to date! Unfortunately there's no magic bullet here, you have to schedule regular reviews of battlecards, decks, etc. One way to do this and leverage analyst insights and data is to use analyst report publication times as a trigger for your content reviews. Gartner, IDC, Constellation etc typically publish their reports (MarketScapes/MQs, market guides, hype cycles, etc) on an annual basis so each year at that time it giv ...Read More

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  5. How do you measure and communicate progress for your analyst relations program, when it can sometimes take a couple years to see results?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    In the early days of an analyst relations program, the key metric you are going to be able to track is touches (inquiries, briefings, conference 1:1 meetings etc). The number of touches can be a proxy for measuring how you are building relationships with the analyst community. I like to track touches per month or per quarter and you should ideally be touching every one of your key analysts at least once per quarter. Once you're a little farther along in your analyst program, you can start to tra ...Read More

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  6. What analyst activities actually help reinforce your brand differentiation vs are expensive and produce little ROI?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    The best kept secret in the analyst community is that you can ask for a briefing even if you don't have a seat/license to the analyst firm! And you should be doing this and following my briefing recommendations above. Don't just wait to be asked to brief the analysts for an eval like an MQ or Wave, be proactive! Reach out quarterly at a minimum and schedule update briefings with all the analyst firms who cover your space. The more they hear from you, the more likely they are to mention you on th ...Read More

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  7. As a product marketer, how do you get your company into a Wave or MQ?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    The first thing to do when trying to get your company into a Wave or MQ is to study the category and find out what the inclusion criteria are. If you don't meet the inclusion criteria right away, work with your product team on building out a roadmap path that allows you to qualify. Or if you have all the required product features but still don't meet it, see what other hurdles like revenue growth or number of customers you need to track to be able to qualify over time. Once you are familiar with ...Read More

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  8. How should we think about sites like G2 and TrustRadius when setting goals for our analyst relations program?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    Sites like G2 and TrustRadius may not be official analyst firms but prospects don't necessarily know that! Because G2 in particular produces a grid report that looks and functions like an MQ or Wave, they are sometimes confused and mistaken for an independent analyst firm. And I would encourage you to treat them as such as well because your prospects don't necessarily know any different! Reach out to G2 to find who is responsible for your product categories and offer to have a briefing with them ...Read More

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  9. What are your recommendations for influencing analysts if there is no MQ in your category?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    The best thing you can do to influence analysts if there is not evaluation report like an MQ or Wave yet is to start early and build a continued cadence of conversation. In this case, it is super important to put your customers in front of the analysts. The more you can show that you have customers doing innovative things in the area you want an MQ or Wave in, the better ammo the analyst has to take back to their management. The big thing that analyst companies look to when thinking about launch ...Read More

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  10. What are proactive things that you can do to minimize the damage when you know an analyst report is coming out that will make your product look bad compared to the competition?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    If you know there is an analyst evaluation report coming out and you didn't perform as well as you would have liked, or you weren't included at all, there are a few things you can do to mitigate the situation: In the lead up time to the publication date, you can start to drip out social posts with customer proof and quotes about the areas where you might not have performed so well. If there were product features you were missing during the evaluation but that you either have since released, or a ...Read More

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  11. How do you develop a one-pager for analyst firms like Gartner to convince them about your product?

    The objective is to push the product up to the personalization leadership quadrant. If I were to give more information to the analyst firm, how should I present it and how to go about creating one.

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • 2y

    I don't know that I would recommend using a one-pager. In my experience, analysts are not going to read a document you send them unsolicited. The best approach would be to schedule some inquiries and briefings with the analysts as I've described in other answers. Then once you've had your briefing or inquiry, you can follow up and send them documents that relate to what you've discussed. This could take the form of one-pagers. The most important thing to include on any documents you send analyst ...Read More

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