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AMA: ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing, Jackie Palmer on Product Marketing Career Path


May 27 @ 10:00AM PT

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Jackie Palmer

VP Product Marketing · ActiveCampaign

I am an accomplished product marketing leader with 20+ years of experience in product strategy, product marketing, and product management for fast-growing software companies. As a hands-on leader, I love to build and mentor teams and am an expert at cross-functional team building, bridging the technical and non-technical divide.

In my current role as VP of Product Marketing at ActiveCampaign, I lead a team of rockstar product and customer marketers that help small teams power big businesses via our autonomous marketing platform and AI agents that imagine, activate, and validate your marketing.
  1. What are good product marketing OKRs?

    I would like to know what metrics are used to measure PMM and what does good look like

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    I have a number of KPIs that I use to measure product marketing impact and success. I've shared these in prior AMAs but here they are for consistency: I ideally like to track the following metrics and stats though sometimes not all are so easy to get. They should be broken down by product if there are multiple products. Win/loss: I like to track competitor win rates monthly but then I have a quarterly deeper win/loss analysis including win rates, average ARR and number of deals by competitor, al ...Read More

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  2. What is your favorite product marketing interview question and the best answer you've heard?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    When I'm interviewing product marketers I'm always looking for critical thinking skills, analytical interpretation, and the ability to translate technical products into outcomes and value statements. These kinds of skills are not typically discovered without some probing. I want to hear the stories, what worked and what didn't, and especially the journey of how you got there, not just the end result. A few example questions I use are: How would you explain the benefits of your current product to ...Read More

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  3. What did you wish you knew at the very beginning of your product marketing career as a Product Marketing Manager?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    Over my years in product marketing, I've learned that the most important skill is not related to how much product knowledge I have, or how good my writing is, or even how well I tell a story. It's how good I am at managing across an organization. To me, product marketing has always been the octopus of an organization, with at least 8 tentacles reaching out to all the different departments like product management, sales, marketing, customer success, etc and outside the organization to customers, ...Read More

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  4. Although nobody has a crystal ball, what do you see 5 and 10 years from now with the Product Marketing role? How will the role evolve over this same time period?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    Five and ten years feels way too long to forecast with any confidence given how fast things are moving right now. I'd rather give you one and three years, which I think are more useful horizons. One year from now, AI fluency is table stakes for every PMM. Not just knowing which tools to use, but having the judgment to know when AI output is wrong, incomplete, or confidently misleading. Most teams aren't hiring for that distinction yet, but they will be. I also expect two new functions to become ...Read More

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  5. When advising PMMs ready to move from mid-level to director, what's the clearest signal they're ready for that leap, and what's the most common thing holding them back?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    The shift from a mid-level PMM to an independent contributor director level PMM is primarily around your sphere of influence - influence over people, product, and process. Directors are more strategic, more external-facing, interface more with execs, and act both more independently and as a force multiplier. To me the definition of an IC director level PMM is: A product marketer who stands at the forefront of leadership, consistently guiding at scale. They excel in domain expertise, spearheading ...Read More

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  6. Are product marketing roles becoming more technical?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    I definitely think there are aspects of product marketing that are becoming more technical nowadays as more tools and more data are available to us. Now we are able to take hundreds and hundreds of sales calls and customer calls and analyze them for messaging insights. We're sending more surveys to gather data points to put into our content. We're building workflows and skills in AI to help automate PMM processes. We're coding prototypes to help our marketing counterparts get our websites update ...Read More

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  7. As a product marketer in 2024, what is the ideal career growth one can expect in terms of responsibilities and salary package?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    I'll answer for 2026 and because salaries differ so much depending on region, skill level, and responsibilities, I'll just focus on responsibilities by level. Here is a high level career path I have used in the past: Associate Product Marketing Manager: An entry-level product marketer who combines self-research with guided learning. They actively seek feedback, with their influence primarily at the individual level. Guided by mentorship, they strive to align their work with business and customer ...Read More

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  8. How difficult is it to pivot from a product manager to a product marketing manager

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    I came to product marketing from product management myself. As I grew higher in my product management career, I started to realize that I was spending more and more of my time on external-facing activities - talking to customers, sitting down with sales reps, working with our PR team, presenting to analysts, researching market insights with influencers/analysts, figuring out what our marketing team actually needed for a product launch. As I started to enumerate all the things I did during a typi ...Read More

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  9. How can someone transition from digital marketing to product marketing considering the differences and overlaps?

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    I've successfully brought people onto my product marketing teams from a variety of departments within the organization. Marketing is a logical choice but I have also had success with transfers from customer success, pre-sales/sales engineering, education, and product management. All of these departments bring valuable skills to product marketing and often have internal knowledge of the product that makes their onboarding easier than hiring from outside. When I have hired internally, I've focused ...Read More

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  10. How can one switch from B2B content marketing to a product marketing role

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    I've successfully brought people onto my product marketing teams from a variety of departments within the organization. Marketing is a logical choice but I have also had success with transfers from customer success, pre-sales/sales engineering, education, and product management. All of these departments bring valuable skills to product marketing and often have internal knowledge of the product that makes their onboarding easier than hiring from outside. When I have hired internally, I've focused ...Read More

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  11. New PMM advice - how to best hone positioning and strategy

    Jackie Palmer
    Jackie Palmer

    ActiveCampaign VP Product Marketing | Formerly Pendo, Demandbase, Conga, SAP • May 27

    For a new PMM, I would focus on gathering a deep understanding of your audience through analyzing as many sources of customer and prospect information as you can. These would include sales and CS calls, reviews, community posts, direct interviews, and other voice of customer sources. Once you have this information, you can use it to build out a digital twin (or likely multiple digital twins) in your AI system of choice. Make sure it is as up to date as possible and vet the digital twin with peop ...Read More

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