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Why do product marketing jobs have high turnover?

Most of my marketing colleagues have either gotten fired, laid off, or found a new job within the past 18 months. I've personally have been laid off 5 times and left on my own 5 times in the past 10 years. Why such high churn in marketing?

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  1. Suyog Deshpande
    Suyog Deshpande

    Samsara Former Sr. Director | Head Of Product & Partner Marketing • 6y

    Not just product marketing but overall marketing has relatively higher turnover compared to other functions. This is true for CMO vs other CXOs as well. If it is initiated by the candidate, then in most cases, it would be fair to say that the job market is hot and we all should be happy. Of course, I am not considering people who left jobs because they did not like their manager or their company. That problem is hard to generalize and answer.If the move is initiated by the company - then the fir ...Read More

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  2. Eric Petitt
    Eric Petitt

    Glassdoor Senior Vice President Marketing • 5y

    It is interesting you say that, because my colleague Sophia and I were talking about it and have felt like there’s been a bit of a renaissance in PMM hiring right now. Organizations seem to get the value of PMM more than ever. Maybe tech companies are getting some marketing religion - they can’t just out-engineer each other. That said, this year has been challenging and many companies have been through a lot of turmoil. In general, be really strategic about where you go and who you work with. I’ ...Read More

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  3. Mike Flouton
    Mike Flouton

    Boxford Capital Managing Partner | Formerly Barracuda, SilverSky, Digital Guardian, OpenPages, Cybertrust • 8y

    I'd first like to call attention to your last sentence - this is an issue with all of marketing, not just PMM. The CMO the the highest turnover spot on the exec team. There are two reasons IME. The bad news.  Marketing is an easy target when times are bad because many of the ways we are supporting the business are indirect. Product delivers stuff or it doesn't. Sales makes their number or they don't. When sales misses their numbers, they blame product and marketing. Product blames sales and mark ...Read More

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  4. Dave Daniels
    Dave Daniels

    BrainKraft Founder • 8y

    Another reason is burnout. Too many organizations perceive PMMs as lead gen people. That puts them into a highly tactical mode. Without so much tactical work, there's never enough time for strategy. Which leads to more tactical work. 

    Here's one of my blog posts that might help - https://www.brainkraft.com/product-marketing-if-a-product-manager-is-the-ceo-of-their-product-what-is-a-product-marketing-manager

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  5. Zachary Fox
    Zachary Fox

    Resultados Digitais Director of Product + Customer Marketing • 7y

    I highly agree with much of what has been said and would add that Product Marketing is a pretty ambiguous role when you think about it. It is often very different according to the org. Tranferring to a new team or having a new boss or a new CMO could mean an entirely new idea of what Product Marketing should or shouldn't be doing and what success looks like. For example, in one of my experiences Product Marketing was nearly 100% product strategy and organizing (like a Project Management Office) ...Read More

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  6. Josh Colter
    Josh Colter

    Woven Head of Marketing • 8y

    Mike's answer is spot on. It's not uncommon for companies to have a poor strategy or fit within their marketplace and then expect marketing to sprinkle magical growth hacker dust on it make the problem go away. To help alleviate this trend, marketers need to do two things: be good at math and speak the truth.   Math represents Derek's response (also very insightful). Product marketing can fall into a grey, undefinied space between departments. So it's incumbant upon you to connect your actions t ...Read More

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  7. Carrie Zhang
    Carrie Zhang

    Square Product Lead • 8y

    I have a different perspective. Most of the turnovers I have seen are voluntary - people moving on to different companies, different roles. So to me it's not necessarily a bad thing. Personally I get bored doing the same thing for more than 2 years. So if my role does not present new learning opportunities, I will probably move on.   On the other hand, in general marketing can be an easy culprit when business is not doing well and budget needs to get slashed. It's just the reality of the profess ...Read More

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  8. Derek Frome
    Derek Frome

    Ouster Vice President Marketing • 8y

    Mike's answer is spot on. Since you've been laid off 5 times in 10 years though, I'll add one other thought. It's possible that you're focusing on outputs, not outcomes. PMM done right is much more focused on outcomes - well defined, measurable (as much as possible). It's the PMM lead's job to secure buy-in from execs, product leadership, and sales leadership on those outcomes. Then it's your job to hit them. It's easy to churn out 2 white papers per quarter and think you're doing something. It' ...Read More

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